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August 7, 2019 at 6:01 am in reply to: Is there a script that can fix run-together words (e.g. "happybirthday")? #14324337
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ParticipantAppreciate the thoughts… yeah, spellcheck is how I’m doing it now, and it’s agonizing.
A handful of errors per page x hundreds of pages. I can’t go back to the original source.Annoyingly, spellcheck’s suggestions are not consistent. One problem word might have the correct solution as the first choice, then another might have it as the 4th choice with some nonsensical suggestions ranked above it like “been-pulled” (why??).
If the first choice was always consistent, like the [word][space][word], then I could at least rapidly spam double clicks on the first suggestion, and fix 99% of the problem words in a matter of minutes. But the slight mental effort and wasted time of finding the correct choice from the suggestion list, turns minutes into hours.
A script that would run a spellcheck, and automatically replace the problem words strictly with [word1 word2] suggestions, would essentially do the trick. Or a script that uses a custom dictionary, which is just the normal dictionary, but maybe culling words less than 5 characters to reduce the amount of false positives (“the me” instead of “theme”).
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ParticipantHey, I noticed nobody had any ideas on this so maybe I can take a guess.
Does it stop responding to ALL keyboard shortcuts, including windows shortcuts? For example can you still do ctrl+S to save, or alt+F4 to close?
Are there any shortcuts that DO work, like is it only ctrl+[whatever] or alt+[whatever] that fails, while shortcuts like pressing V to get the arrow tool still work?
Do you want to upload a file somewhere and I can see if the problem happens on my end too? If you need a straightforward place to upload, sendspace.com should work, or dropbox.
I know that ID shortcuts can get screwed up in a weird way, where they won’t be fixable with the usual custom keyboard shortcut interface. For example I somehow broke my ability to press “Enter” to confirm a dialogue box. Nothing I did within InDesign itself could fix it. I had to edit the indesign shortcuts file directly, which is found (on windows machines) here: C:\Users\Yourname\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\InDesign\Version #n_US\InDesign Shortcut Sets\custom_shortcuts.indk
Exact details of how that was edited can be found in my post. It’s basically a text file. https://indesignsecrets.com/topic/anyone-else-getting-an-id6-bug-where-pressing-enter-doesnt-ok-dialogue-boxes-anymore#post-94415
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ParticipantMattias – I don’t know what method ID uses for on-screen presentation, but anyway we’re worried about print. When you export to PDF, the compression options will downsample any over-sampled image to the PPI of your choice, using the plain Bicubic method. So the advanced options from photoshop like “bicubic sharper” are not there.
It does suck that there is no output sharpening option. I worked at a print shop and they routinely just settled for Bicubic downsizing, knowing the final images may not have a lot of microcontrast, but they would at least be detailed.
I have seen magazines with seemingly 100% consistent sharpness throughout, and my guess is they DO have a workflow to do final sharpening at a given size. What the workflow is, I don’t know. ACR and Lightroom both offer a feature to export a batch of photos with changed sizes and output sharpening.
So a semi-automatic routine might be something like this:
-Create an indesign layout with lots of linked images from a working folder.
-Open all your original pics (raw or otherwise) which exist in a different folder.
-Mass output these with preferred shrink and sharpening settings, you could probably use one a one-size-fits-all setting for most of them,
and maybe make an exception for the handful of full page images or whatever.
-Have the output overwrite the linked indesign files. Indesign will prompt you to update you links. Do so.
-Export to PDF. Since everything’s already sharpened and “close enough” to correct size, you can use the PDF bicubic method
to shed excess PPI.August 18, 2017 at 12:16 pm in reply to: How can I transform all objects to an absolute height? "transform again" fails. #96907Lala Lala
ParticipantHa, I gave up too early before posting.
So the sequence I wanted was this:
1. Select one image –
2. Type “2 in” in the frame height box.
3. ctrl+alt+shift+E – fill frame proportionally… forgot about this option.
4. ctrl+alt+C – fit frame to content.
5. select all other images.
6. object – transform again – transform sequence again individuallySeems awfully clunky, I guess in the future I could do something like a contact sheet but it’s a lot of images and they aren’t
all together. A logical fix would be to allow someone to select a bunch of images, and if I type “2 in” in the percentage box,
they get scaled individually to 2 inch height, and if I want the whole group to be 2 inches, I’d have to group them first.Another fix would be to have transform again work logically by doing the exact transformation I type.. if I type “2 in” in the percentage box
and do transform again to other images, they should behave as if I typed “2 in” in their respective height boxes.July 19, 2017 at 9:42 am in reply to: How TF does InDesign sort font weights/styles? This is driving me insane. #96212Lala Lala
ParticipantThe shortcut you gave is useful, but mostly it’s not about finding a specific font,
it’s about having a shorter, manageable list of fonts, for when I’m sort of browsing the possibilities.Maybe it’s just the neat freak in me, but situations like this are just unacceptible.
If I can solve this mystery, I may waste some time getting it right once,
but then it’ll never bug me again.Lala Lala
ParticipantAppreciate it Gabriel! It still happens and still annoys me so I’ll give that a try. Configurator sounds useful.
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ParticipantThought I’d also chime in on this old thread. First to thank KL Tan as that led me to my solution.
In my case it was a little different. The problem item was a line that originally was defined in Illustrator as 0 height, with a 1 pt stroke. I copied it from illustrator to InDesign, which drew it as a rectangle (1 point high) that had no stroke. I could not make the rectangle 1/2 point tall without getting this error.
Somehow, the “0 height” line still existed within that rectangle. It wasn’t grouped with it, I couldn’t click and draw to select it. But if I pressed ctrl+A, it appeared in the center of the 1 point high rectangle. Also weird, transform controls showed that the rectangle had a height, but where you’d normally see “0 pt” for an object with no stroke, the field was blank. I could type “0 pt” in there and it would appear to work, but then when I clicked off the line and clicked it again, it would again be blank.
Anyway… I fixed it by using the “Swap stroke and fill” arrow below all my tools, which temporarily gave it a fat stroke, and then clicking it again. After the second click it worked like a normal box, with a height and 0pt stroke. I could resize without the error.
Hope that helps someone else. Weird bug.
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ParticipantEdit – Every time I think I understand windows and ID font issues, I find one more snag.
I did manage to solve it though, by erasing one more font cache I seldom see mentioned.Issue: I removed fonts from windows font folder, registry, and deleted windows fntcache.dat, plus all relevant .LST files from adobe folders. Font still appeared in Indesign’s font menu.
Fix: I had to delete the file “fontmaskcache” (no extension).
This file lives in: C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Local\Adobe\InDesign\Version X.Xn_US\Caches\
Once I removed it and restarted indesign, the font list was completely correct, without rebooting.
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ParticipantYou’ll be a lot happier with InDesign for those purposes than, say, Word. I’d say that ID is more of a high end program for professionals, and is much more geared towards users who need to publish actual books rather than office reports or something. ID handles footers, TOC formatting, footnotes, drop caps, captions, etc very well.
I also find the ability to position things, handle fonts, and apply styling is 1000 times more painless in InDesign. It’s got some really useful features to handle large documents… for example, if you made a book where every chapter header is black Times New Roman, but you wanted to change them all to Requiem Italic, color them blue, and make them 2 sizes smaller, you could do it with a single search-and-replace or by redefining a grep style.
But then again, you’re asking on a site for InDesign fans, so what did you figure people would say? “Nah, it’s crappy, I mostly use Publisher for that stuff” :)
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Participantjust out of curiousity what happens if you drag these pages manually? Is it only “move pages” dialogue that fails?
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ParticipantYou can do edit – keyboard shortcuts, then click “show set” button on the right. This makes a standard text file… you can then search for “1”… you will get a lot of results, but if 1 has been remapped you’ll eventually find it. You can paste the text file into indesign and maybe do a more advanced GREP search to narrow down your results.
Also check for stuck keys like control, alt, or shift.
May 9, 2017 at 10:18 pm in reply to: Anyone else getting an ID6 bug where pressing Enter doesn't "OK" dialogue boxes anymore? #94415Lala Lala
Participant4 years and 6 months later, I have the solution haha… can’t believe I just worked around it all this time.
Indesign keeps your keyboard shortcuts (in windows) here:
C:\Users\Yourname\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\InDesign\Version #n_US\InDesign Shortcut Sets\My heavily customized set of keyboard shortcuts was here, but it had some problem that forced me to click OK to dialogue boxes instead of pressing enter. I couldn’t spot this problem by clicking the “show shortcuts” button within indesign, because that just generates a plain text file of the shortcuts, and strips out a bunch of hidden stuff.
To see the hidden stuff, I made a copy of my custom_shortcuts.indk, and renamed that copy to custom_shortcuts.txt. The file is readable, it’s in XML format, so a typical shortcut looks like:
<shortcut>
<action-id value=”0x1d000 + 4″ name=”kZoomFitPageInWindowActionID”></action-id>
<context>DefaultContext</context>
<string>Ctrl+0</string>
</shortcut>The first issue is that somehow my file had weird wrapping or tabs or something, so instead of being all tidy like the above example, it was more like… <shortcut> <action-id value=”0x1d000 + 4″ name=”kZoomFitPageInWindowActionID”></action-id> <context>DefaultContext</context> <string>Ctrl+0</string> </shortcut>
making it a real pain to read. So I copied it into Indesign, thinking to do some GREP search-and-replace to insert line breaks and tabs as needed. But magically, when I pasted it into indesign, it fell into tidy columns with tabs all by itself. I then copied it back into the file I’d been editing (“custom_shortcuts.txt”) and now it at least was legible.
I then ran a search for the word “Enter” in my file, and also in the default indesign shortcut file (which I was able to view the same way, by making a copy of it, and then renaming it to default_copy.txt).
I figured out that the Indesign default file had a crucial difference. The default file had –
<shortcut>
<action-id value=”0x600 + 2″ name=”kDefaultButtonActionID”></action-id>
<context>DialogContext</context>
<string>#Keyboard_Enter_Win</string>
</shortcut>In my custom file, the name was slightly different, but more importantly, that “#Keyboard_Enter_Win” was missing.
<shortcut>
<action-id value=”0x600 + 2″ name=”KBSCE Alerts:Default button”></action-id>
<context>DialogContext</context>
<string></string>
</shortcut>So I simply pasted #Keyboard_Enter_Win between those two <string> tags, and poof… I could press enter to OK dialogue boxes and confirm things.
Dunno if anyone else ever had this issue but maybe the info will help others troubleshoot keyboard shortcuts without rebuilding them from scratch.
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ParticipantI wanted to add another fix I had recent font issues that drove me nuts, and now I finally understand what happens. Not just with Indesign but just about all windows font issues.
For a font to work in indesign, you have to have the following issues straightened out.
1. It’s correctly installed (this is where most problems are coming from).
2. It’s not missing or incorrect in Adobe’s font list files, which float around various adobe folders on your PC.
3. It’s not missing or incorrect in the windows font cache (which lives in C:\windowsystem32 in windows 7, and is called fntcache.dat)
4. It’s not incorrect in your Indesign general preferences.Issues 2 and 3 are pretty easy fixes, and you may have already tried them. Basically, you delete fntcache.dat, and let windows rebuild it when you reboot the PC. And/or you delete the (whatever)fnt.lst files from various adobe folders, and let Indesign rebuild them.
But if you had no success, it’s issue 1, possibly combined with issue 4, and this is poorly explained almost everywhere I’ve found, so I’m gonna try to explain it better.
You have a few different ways of installing a font on Windows (sorry Mac users, I got no knowledge of mac font issues).
• Right click the font file, choose install
• Drag the font into C:\windows\fonts\
• other ways (but nevermind, let’s move on)When you right click and install a font, 2 things happen.
1. Windows copies the file to C:\windows\fonts\
2. Windows creates an entry in the registry. The registry keeps a list of installed fonts, and your freshly-installed font gets added to this list.
3. If the font is a Type 1 font (the ones that are made of 2 files, like something.PFM and something.PFB) then those fonts get added to a *different* list in the registry.I think 90% of windows font problems come from issues with this registry list.
If a font is on the list, but not in the windows folder… you can’t use it.
Worse, it may appear in Indesign, but give an error when you try to choose it, or just all blanks.
If a font is in the Windows Font folder, but not on the list… you can’t use it.
If you try to reinstall it, and it’s already on the list… you get an error like “this font is already installed”.It’s also possible for a font to be in the correct folder, and be in the registry list… but it still doesn’t work because the registry list points to an incorrect filename. Like the registry thinks your Scriptina font file is called “Scriptina.ttf”, but it’s actually called “Scriptina_0.otf” or something.
On top of all that, Windows makes it difficult to easily view and delete the font files contained in C:\windows\fonts. If you go to that font folder “the usual way” you get a special folder view, where fonts get big preview icons and you see their full pretty name (e.g. “Times New Roman Bold” instead of “TimesNRB.ttf” or whatever). Unfortunately, this special view has a ton of issues.
• The icons you see here are governed by the registry list. So if the registry list is wrong, the windows font folder will be also.
• You can’t see the true filename, which is necessary to make that registry list work.
• You don’t see duplicate files. It’s very possible to have something like… curlzMT.ttf, curlzMT_0.ttf, curlzMT_1.ttf, curlzMT_2.ttf, etc.
• It displays fonts with multiple weights under one icon, which acts sort of like a windows folder… you double click it to see the fonts within the folder. But it’s not always consistent with adobe apps, e.g. you might have 20 fonts under “Meta” in the font menu, but windows shows 20 Meta icons, or worse, something weird like 10 Meta icons, with 2 fonts within each… a regular and an italic.
• If you try to delete a font in this special font folder, you very often get an error that windows just can’t delete it. And even specialty programs like “unlocker” don’t work.OK, so here’s the fix that will solve almost all windows (and InDesign) font issues.
STEP 1
• You must straighten out that registry list first, then straighten out the windows font folder too.
I won’t explain the whole registry and how it works, if you haven’t heard of it then be careful poking around in it, or get a more techy friend to help.Run regedit.
Navigate to this “folder” (actually called a key): HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Fonts
*note: it’s windows NT, not just “windows”.After highlighting the key on the left, you’ll see a bunch of values on the right (basically each value = one font in the list).
If you have a particular font you’re having issues with, look for it in the list, right click on it, and choose “delete”.
Try not to delete any basic windows system fonts like arial, times new roman, and those weird language fonts like GulimChe.
Google to find a list of system fonts for your version of windows.If the font is a Type 1 font, you need to go here instead: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Type 1 Installer\Type 1 Fonts\
Same deal, look for troublesome fonts in the list on the right, right click them, choose delete.
Note – this doesn’t delete the font file itself, just removes it from the list of installed fonts. It will still be on your computer, whether it was located in the windows font folder or somewhere else.Go through the list and delete fonts that you know you’ve tried to remove before, or know you don’t want. Delete fonts that give errors in your adobe applications.
STEP 2
• Now to clean out the windows font folder.
Instead of viewing the windows font folder normally, you must view it in a different way. This alternate way of browsing the folder will let you see the files as usual, organize them however you want, and see the actual file names (including duplicates). This view is unaffected by that registry list mentioned above.
To get this true view of the windows font folder, open up any folder on your PC, and at the top (where you see “address” and can manually type stuff) try copying and pasting this:
localhost\C\Windows\fonts\If it works you’ll see your fonts the same way you see any other files. All those ugly duplicates with _0 and _1 in their filename will be visible. And if you delete a font, it actually works without any issue (usually). But before we delete anything – copy all the files in this folder to a new folder located somewhere else, like your desktop or wherever. We want to play it safe, because when you delete fonts in this “true view” of the font folders, I believe it’s permanent, it doesn’t move them to your recycle bin.
Now find and remove the problem font file(s)… be aware that it might have a weird name that doesn’t make it immediately obvious. Like Palatino Bold is “palabi_0.ttf” or your Univers fonts might all start with L because they’re made by Linotype. If you see a file and are unsure what font it represents, you can just double click it and get a preview with the font’s full name.
Now that you have a cleaned up registry list, and a cleaned up windows font folder, you can reinstall the problem fonts. I recommend you do this by making sure they’re somewhere outside of the windows font folder, then right clicking and choosing install. If all goes well, the font will be available in indesign and elsewhere, and work without any errors.
If not, try those other fixes mentioned earlier, deleting those .lst files and the windows font cache.
Finally, I’ve had fonts give me problems because they were somehow listed erroneously in my Indesign preferences file. I think that file keeps a full list of fonts too, if you open it in a text editor you’ll see tons of font names. If you try everything else and are about to give up, try trashing your indesign preferences. I’ll leave you to google how to do that.
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ParticipantAre they in a folder on a network or just on your computer?
Can you delete them manually or does it give an error?It’s supposed to remove them when you close ID so it may be that ID didn’t technically close (even though it appeared to) or it closed but it’s being denied access to the lock files.
If you’re on windows and do ctrl+alt+delete you can see if indesign is secretly still running even though it appears to be closed.
If the files are somehow locked and not allowed to be deleted, it could be an issue with the computer’s settings for file permissions. If a file doesn’t have certain permissions, a person or program cannot delete it.
You can see the permissions in windows by right clicking one of the lock files, and choosing properties, and then choosing the security tab. I don’t know if your security tab will look exactly like mine, but on my computer, the groups that can control IDLK files are:
Everyone
Authenticated Users
SYSTEM
Administrators
UsersAnd each of these groups has its own set of permissions.
Everyone, SYSTEM, and Administrators shows a checkbox for all the permissions
(well, the first 5… Full Control, Modify, Read & Execute, Read, Write).
Authenticated Users don’t have a check by “Full Control”.
“Users” only have checkmarks for “read” and “read & execute”.If your permissions match mine, then probably it isn’t a permissions problem.
It sounds lame but… if you haven’t rebooted in a while, definitely do that before doing any other troubleshooting.
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ParticipantIf I were doing this, I would do the 6 page method you mentioned, export the PDF as 2 pages to make the printer happy,
and then for the web layout… I guess it depends on how much time you have and how much experience you have doing web design.No time at all = rearrange 6 pages logically in the order you’d want the viewer to see them,
left to right and then top to bottom, export with no changes at all. 3 panels fitting the width
of the display, then 3 more after they scroll down.A little time = make a new ID file and copy-paste the contents to a slightly different layout
that is more web-friendly… for example the front cover of a brochure would be tall and thin,
buit the header of a web page would typically be wide enough to fit the screen width.
So you’d basically copy and paste the contents of 3 panels onto one landscape page
and shuffle items until they look good.Lots of time / paid web desiger = maybe do a nice interactive online brochure
where the user can click and open up 3D-looking “folds” as if they were handling
an actual printed brochure. Then your layout doesn’t change, you just get a 6 page
PDF to your web guy and let them hassle with the rest. -
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