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Keith Cross
MemberOkay. Seems like it should be able to do that. But clearly, it can’t. Per your comment early in this thread…
“…spot colors always get added”…which I’ve tested and confirmed…
Doesn’t it seem odd that the CMYK values aren’t recognized in an accuarate way? What am I missing?
I tried using a process color book designation (e.g. Pantone Process Coated), exported that file from Illustrator, placed in InDesign, but it doesn’t recognize the color…interestingly, a CMYK color from a “book” shows up as CMYK, whereas a Pantone spot color comes up as a “book” color (meaning in the swatches palette, the icons are different and if you double click on the swatch, the book color explictly says it’s a book color)…there being, I presume, no color profile setting in Illustrator beyond CMYK or RGB.
Sure is strange…
MemberI’m not sure that is correct tool for the job in this case. I’m working on a logo in Illustrator that has a specific set of CMYK values. When I place the logo in InDesign, I want to see the relevant colors in my Swatch palette. Spot colors are added automatically, but not CMYK values. Add unused colors is the most direct tool (and part of swatch palette) and really should be the way this is done. When I use the color theme, it only shows me hex values and I don’t see a gear or options menu to change the color space of that tool window.. I need a precise CMYK value. My files color settings are set to North American Prepress 2 through Bridge. I hope this additional info makes this more clear. Not sure why the Adobe team would move such a fundamental function out of the swatch palette out to some other tool.
I can use the “eyedropper” tool, but that only gives me RGB values, and when I try to convert that new swatch to CMYK, the values don’t match the original values set in Illustrator (a warning pops up that says it’s based on RGB, so I expected this to be wrong). But why? Why can’t InDesign just read the values from the Illustrator file?
MemberIs there a reason why CMYK values aren’t added when I chose “Add Unnamed Colors” in my swatch palette? I’ve placed a PDF exported from Illustrator, and I’m not able to select any paths in the artwork, rather, I select the whole file, choose “Add Unnamed Colors” and nothing happens. The swatch does not already exist…so I’m not clear why the CMYK values aren’t added. Any advice would be much appreciated. I’m on Ventura, using 2025 versions of both Illustrator and Indesign, btw.
MemberYes, I understand how normal cross references operate. The cross reference list was preferable because I had a way to update it if, by chance, I had to bump an entry to a new page manually, and my book re-paginates. Indexes and TOCs are more of a “final step”, if you will. Xrefs are more dynamic, like hyperlinks. But Xrefs are buggy, bandwidth hogs, and the document I’d created to handle them in my book keeps crashing.
The TOC or Index method was not ideal, but Indexing seems to be the least difficult route. I also found this: https://creativepro.com/files/kahrel/indesign/index_from_wordlist.html (a script that makes index entries from a paragraph style). The issues I’m facing is that the directory I have is organized by geographic region whereas the Appendix is meant to be organized by service category. Thus far, my solution has been:
1. Create the index entry per the style (using the script, thank you Mr. Kahrel)
2. Copy/paste the index (which has each item with page number) into a spreadsheet and sort/manipulate/resort entries to pair the relevant entries (by title) with the relevant index reference (with page numbers)
3. Then recompile the entries by service category (which do not have/don’t need a link)
4. Re-import the text to serve as the index (now “dumb” because the index markers are eliminated)If only I could search and replace, using GREP, all page numbers, e.g., find “123”, replace with “^I123^I” but thus far, it appears that it just gives me text (not a linked page marker), e.g., “^I123^I” that isn’t a link. ((and oddly enough, when I perform the S/R, I cannot undo it. It just leaves the markers as text (they are definitely not hidden text).))
I have not found a way to export the index (with the code associated with each page marker) and do a search and replace outside of InDesign, then import back in.
At present, I may have to just accept that the index will not have links to the page, but merely serve as an indication of the page to the reader of the PDF. The printed version is sufficiently served by this option, of course, but the PDF would not have links. I’m also hoping to investigate this: https://www.id-extras.com/products/liveindex/. Maybe it will be my last step to relink things?
I appreciatively welcome any other insights.
Regards, KC
MemberI think I’m looking for this one: “…use the paragraph style selector to create all references and then have something like a loaded cursor to place them?” because I’m essentially using the cross references like an Appendix. It occurs to me that perhaps I should treat this as an Index, but I’ve never made one in InDesign and I’m not sure if that will give me the output I want.
MemberThank you. Am I the only one shaking my fists at the Indesign skies? Why…why must cross references be so archaic?
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