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John Kelsall
MemberI have a bit of an update about this. The LTC according to the fonts in the Adobe Creative Cloud stands for ‘Lanston Type Co.’.
I therefore downloaded LTC Cason Pro – and voilà – the same things happens with that font. So I’m guessing this might happen with all fonts from this foundry.
MemberHi Steve
Yes, you are correct – Goudy Old Style Std works fine. I just wanted to use the LTC Goudy Pro due to the book I was working on having lots of underdots, overdots and overbars and other glyphs that Goudy Old Style Std has missing.
Basically in the end I used Goudy Old Style Std for the book and made characters styles for regular, bold, bold italic and italic in Goudy Old Style Pro for any missing glyphs.
It would just have been easier to set it all in the one font, but life is never easy!
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JohnMemberThanks for your concern Steve but no I would never do that!
The non-breaking space does uniformly misbehave, but the idea of a non-breaking space is that it looks exactly like any other space on the same line. So if you put a non-breaking space between S. Davis (so that they always stay together), in LTC Goudy it would look more like S.Davis and appear wrong.
We use the non-breaking space for things like ‘vol. 10’, ‘p. 10’, ‘no. 1’, ‘P. C. Snow’ etc. and is handy for turning words over when correcting proofs.
To put your mind at rest that I’m not doing anything silly, I have well over 40 years experience in typesetting (originally I was what was known as a compositor), so I’m quite an expert to be honest. I was typesetting before Quark and InDesign (one system (Interset) even in the 1980s did tables so much better than Quark or InDesign and automatically created them perfectly), and I still work at least 10 hours everyday in InDesign on complex books and have my own typesetting company.
Having said all that – I still learn something new nearly everyday.
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JohnMemberThanks for the reply Steve. I deal with books and most of the setting is justified so I wouldn’t know what width to use for each word space. Also for ranged left setting I can just use the fixed width non-breaking space as that works as normal.
December 1, 2021 at 7:43 am in reply to: How do you apply an alternative number 1 in a font automatically #14351212MemberThanks Godfried, but how did you know about stylistic set 3 and what each stylistic set offers?
You don’t have to answer that, but thanks for giving me the heads-up.
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JohnnyDecember 1, 2021 at 7:40 am in reply to: How do you apply an alternative number 1 in a font automatically #14351208MemberFirst of all, thank you all for helping me with tackling this problem.
The solution was by Godfried with his ‘Stylistic set 3’. By making it this the alternative 1 came out correctly.
Thanks again
JohnMemberWell thank you very much Boaz. That shortcut certainly works! – and I shall use that from now on.
I wonder why the 1-shot keyboard shortcut has gone though?
MemberDue to lack of activity I’ve decided to make this a bug report to Adobe. This is what I have written if you want to try it out yourself:
Assigning a keyboard shortcut to ‘Baseline options’ does not work from CC2015 onwards. (CS3 to CC2014 assigning a shortcut does work).
If you go to ‘Edit > Keyboard shortcuts > Product Area: Object Menu > Baseline Options’ and add a keyboard shortcut for this, it does not work from CC2015 onwards no matter what key combination you use for the shortcut. However, CC2014 downwards it always works.
If anybody decides to read this and has an answer, please post – thanks.
MemberSorry – I meant Baseline options, not Baseline shift!
MemberYou are correct – command B takes to the panel where Baseline Shift is, that’s what I’m using at the moment – but I want to get straight into Baseline Shift – a level further on from command B. As I say you can in Indesign CS3-CC2014.
MemberThank you Peter for all your help and advice. Thank you Chris too for your contribution.
MemberApologies Peter – I was confusing an anchored box with a text anchor. Is there a way of globally deleting these?
MemberThanks for your replies. There is no ^ under them so I do not think they are normal index markers. There is nothing showing in the Index palette. If they were text anchors I would expect them to be just ^ and I would be able to delete them in a S&R.
To recap they are blue colons – there are no other symbols with them. In the book I’m working on they are in the endnotes, and each endnote has 13 of them looking like this ::::::::::::: – they overlap the start of the endnote wording. I wish I could send a screenshot.
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JohnMemberThanks for your post. I know what you are saying and I normally keep up to date with the latest trends, but we truly have had lots of problems with .docx files. In fact a large publishing house in London just a few months ago were having problems bringing in Author word files and asked us if we could provide them with any help. We instructed them to save them as .doc files first and it solved their problem. As we do not use .docx anymore it is hard to remember the exact problems they can cause but I remember odd footnotes missing; hidden text within Word appearing in the InDesign file when it should not appear, etc. With the hundreds of books we do we find that are so many odd things that Author’s do to their Word files.
As we are typesetters our work is very precise and varied – we do quite a lot of quite complicated work with Maths, Arabic – lots of books for University Presses – and if there is anything missing/changed or added then we are at fault and we would have to pay for any wasted printing costs. It is just not worth the risk unfortunately. If we used .docx files and 9 out of 10 books were OK, that is just not good enough for us. Hopefully an InDesign CC2019 update will fix this issue.MemberThanks for your comments David. I admire you very much, and so to get an answer from you is an honour indeed.
I would like to say that in regards to Acrobat DC I was referring to ‘Edit PDF’ where you can conveniently click on any type and find out the size and weight. In DC it will only tell you the font, in XI it told you the font and the weight of it. So DC has gone backwards compared to XI.
You are correct about using the Output Preview but this seems to me to be an unwieldy way of working when the ‘Edit PDF’ is a quick and ideal way of working.
As regards the font problem, we have found that this can happen with a brand new file (command-N) where you have not used a template but with the older versions of InDesign this does not happen. The company I work for are typesetters and so we deal with files from authors via publishers and deal with thousands of books a year and so we do have a lot of experience, and we really think that is a bug.
Again, in regards to the guide problem, I apologise if I did not explain myself very well. What I meant to say was that the measurements down the side of the InDesign file are sometimes greyed out. You sometimes have to click the measurements down the side of the page first to make them not greyed out, and then you can drag out a guide. You should just be able to just click and drag a guide without ‘unlocking’ the measurements first.As an aside David, did you ever get anywhere with table creation from the Interset system? It was a typesetting system I worked on in the 1980s that automatically worked out the table column widths and was far superior to anything InDesign and Quark have ever produced in regards to creating tables. They produced a Mac version of the software called ‘Quoin’. You enquired about it a number of years ago and I wondered if anything ever came out of it.
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