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Chris Thompson
MemberMac or Windows?
I might be barking up the wrong tree, but… I’ve seen similar odd things happen on Macs when there’s a variant of the OS font installed as an InDesign document font (or installed by font manager software). If you can turn off all “special” fonts installed for different projects, does the problem go away?
Chris
April 18, 2016 at 5:03 am in reply to: please help: Indesign – financial document – citation ?? #84085MemberMaybe set it up as a two-column table, left column wide with the main text, right column narrow with the citations, and use a new row for each paragraph? (and turn off the table grid lines (cell strokes).
Good luck,
Chris.MemberCould there be more than one language specified in the character attributes for the different locations?
If I type ” I get different quote marks depending on which language is set (low opening then high closing for German, double chevrons/guillemets for French for example).
Then if I globally replace ” with the same thing, the different quote marks remain.Good luck,
Chris.MemberOdd – I can’t replicate it here: Mac with 10.9, CS6 and Word 2008. Formatted one para in Word in Minion Pro Bold Italic and the other in Arial. Both paras placed in ID with the fonts intact.
Chris.
MemberI usually blame multiple versions of Helvetica when that sort of thing happens. You haven’t got a very old Helvetica activated in a third-party font manager by any chance?
Chris.
MemberWill you post the results of the survey here?
Also, since it’s compulsory for someone to make a “missing questions” post, so I’ll do it here. I think these might be relevant to usage and retention, as the change to the subscription model takes effect:
Q: Which version(s) do you use?
Q: If you use more than one version, why do you use them?Cheerio,
Chris.MemberIt’s odd that the italic isn’t in fact retained when you copy via TextEdit – other text attributes (font choice &size) are retained, but bold and italic aren’t.
Bold and Italic do get retained on a direct paste from Pages (but obviously with the messed-up line breaks).I just tried copy-paste via Word (2008 Mac), and the italics and bold *are* retained in that route.
Dwayne – I just did an export from Pages to Word docx format, and copy-pasted that text from Word into ID: anything originally in Times was “pink highlighted” by ID, which was now looking for Times Roman.
What a mess.
Chris.MemberI can confirm that behaviour with Pages 5.2 and InDesign CS6.
The same thing happens both when pasting into an existing text box in ID, and also when pasting on a blank page with the arrow tool selected.
If I paste the Pages text into TextEdit, it pastes OK (with proper line breaks), and if I copy that from TextEdit into ID, it also pastes OK.
If I add an additional “newline” (Shift-Return) between the lines in Pages, it pasted into ID with new lines but also with a pink unrecognised character at the line ends.
In all the above cases, other formatting (size, bold, italic) was preserved.If I use a plain text editor as an intermediate stage (TextWrangler), I lose the formatting but get the paragraph marks
Odd.Sorry, I don’t have a solution, other than a workaround of paste into TextEdit as an intermediate stage.
Good luck,
Chris.MemberMasood – yes, it was something of an “off the wall” solution that I didn’t have time to think through or try out.
Brendan – can you tell the people specifying it “it’ll cost X for variable width boxes, but X minus a discount for standardised widths” ??
Some bosses don’t understand “it’s too difficult”, but they do understand “it’s too expensive”.Good luck,
Chris.Member“the boxes can change by millimetres sometimes” – ah, the benefits of standardisation! My sympathies.
Off the wall suggestion – would a right-to-left paragraph or story direction, as in Arabic/Hebrew, solve the tab positioning? There could be some interesting side-effects with the numbers if you’re not careful though. I would try it out but I’m in the middle of something else right now.
See also this forum thread where the tab ruler is displaying right to left:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1599827?start=0&tstart=0Chris.
MemberWhat about:
– Standardise your box widths to a small set, say 100mm, 125mm, 150mm
– Set up a series of styles with tab stops included in the styles, one style for each of the standard widths
– Then choose your style to match the required standardised box width.Keyboard shortcuts for the series of styles might speed things up too.
Chris.
MemberYes, I’d go with a GREP if possible – the GREP would be best so long as there’s a discernible consistent pattern to the *content*, while the table manipulation is a fallback – and works if there’s a discernible pattern to the *structure* (new lines/returns etc), but not the content.
Chris.
MemberIs it possible to copy that single column out of the table, and then manipulate it separately, then re-insert it?
If the column is consistent, you might be able to:
convert the table column to text with suitable delimiters between the two entries in each row,
re-convert that text to a two-column table (using those delimiters, so that the first element of each row is now in column 1 and the second element is in column 2),
swap the order of the two columns…then reverse the process:
re-convert to text,
re-convert to a single column table,
re-insert into the original table.Does that make sense? It’s almost harder to explain it than to do it.
Good luck,
Chris.MemberTwo ideas:
1. Have you checked the cell insets in each case? If they’re bigger in the new cell, could that possibly prevent the size going any smaller?
2. Is there a “snap to grid” setting on in your case, which was off when the original was set up?Good luck,
Chris.MemberFind and replace?
in the Find: from the dropdown, the “any character” symbol
in the Change Format: click the box and deselect “No Break” in the Basic Character Formats panelChris.
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