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Chris Thompson
MemberYes, those “insane floating boxes” are not my choice of layout tool, but you have to work with what you’re given sometimes.
They’re a pain even if you’re just editing in Word:
– text flying in all directions at the slightest provocation
– words randomly showing up or not in searches and word counts according to which version of Word it is
– and favoured by one of the PDF-to-Word converters that I come across a lot in the translation business
Don’t get me started – oh, I did already!Chris Thompson
MemberCan we ask why? Is it for artistic reasons, or to achieve some technical purpose?
Chris Thompson
MemberOut of curiosity (wish I’d seen this first time around!), I downloaded that New Aramaic font linked above, and it shows up as a 44kb TrueType from 1990 (quite a small file size, but still potentially Unicode-compliant).
But Aramaic was only added to Unicode in v3.0 from 1999, so the font predates that.
And the glyphs in it appear to be in the Unicode Private Use Area, which is never a good sign for compatibility with InDesign.Chris Thompson
MemberHello Brant.
Not entirely sure what you mean with the spacing.
But it might help if you think of each table as a single word in the text flow: you can put lines of ordinary text (or just carriage returns) between tables, and adjust via “space after” etc.Chris Thompson
MemberWhat’s going wrong when you try it? Are each of your tables in text frames of their own?
If more than one table is within a single text frame, they behave pretty much as part of the text flow, reflowing within a text frame, even across different pages.Chris Thompson
MemberDoes it help to pre-define your cell styles to have their own paragraph styles?
Chris Thompson
MemberNo problem.
On the downside, Photoshop hasn’t necessarily got the breadth of text formatting options that ID has, so maybe that’s why it behaves the way you describe.Chris Thompson
MemberYou could use a GREP search to add a discretionary line break after every single character.
find: . (a single full stop/period) = any letter or number
replace: $0~k (dollar zero tilde k) = “found text” plus discretionary line breakWorks for me with Courier (a monospaced font).
How much is the text content going to change? You might need to re-run the search each time new content is added, as it won’t automatically add the breaks.
Chris Thompson
MemberIs there a good reason for using a typeface that doesn’t support the inch and foot marks?
From an outsider perspective, it sounds like you’re looking for a second workaround to fix your first workaround, so to speak.
Or is the problem that authors don’t use the correct characters anyway, and just type a ” when they should type a ??Edit: might have guessed – this forum doesn’t support the inch mark either, hence the double question mark in the line above!
Chris Thompson
MemberStem – thanks – I knew that once, and now I know it again!
Any luck with a better solution than planted graphics?Chris Thompson
MemberIs it possible that the translator for that langauge has forgotten to tell their CAT tool to include the supplementary text like indexes, footnotes etc?
I know some CAT tools have the option to include or exclude different parts of the text content of IDML files.Edit: and if it works OK for some languages and not others, then I don’t think that suggestion of using a language-specific version of ID for each version of the publication is the answer.
Chris Thompson
Member“Something’s gotta give”, as the song goes.
If you can’t change the cell row height, try reducing the top and bottom text inset/indent on the table cells? And play with the position in the cell – vertically-centred or bottom-aligned probably, unless you have notes with descending as well as ascending “stalks” or whatever the technical term is.
Or look for a musical notes font that has shorter stalks and stubbier circular bits?Chris Thompson
MemberUseful video explanation.
What happens if you reduce the font size for the musical note characters?
It looks to me as if the notes, despite being 11 point, actually extend far beyond the expected height of an uppercase letter, and *that’s* what’s causing the overset table cell, rather than the leading.Chris Thompson
MemberIf the GREP works to find them, then use a GREP-based Find/Change, applying [No Break] in the Change side of the Find/Change?
Chris Thompson
MemberIt’s worth checking the language setting on the paragraphs affected.
If it’s set to French or something else that uses guillemet («») quote marks, and if smart quotes are turned on, it’ll change what’s typed. -
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