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Ann Farr
MemberJust had to join in this, mainly because I have to work with photos that are just too awful — all to do with military history, some are as old as the hills, some would you believe scanned from newspapers and so on. But the publisher seems to think that we should put the photos in because the author wants them there — printed in black and white throughout books. I have learned not to be proud and sometimes I'm forced to 'stretch' an image until it's about 170dpi. Actually it doesn't seem to print any worse than the others — rarely do I get anything of any quality. And the publisher is always in a hurry, especially when there are 3-400 photos/maps to put in a book. Ack! Just thought you'd like to know the sort of work some of us have to do?
And if you don't think this question is impolite, I was wondering if Mike Rankin is old enough to be on this list (:)) because he looks like a handsome young schoolboy … ? Hope I'm not going to get put out into the cold. I'm of the age when the policemen look like children too!
Ann
Ann Farr
MemberHi Brad,
Thanks for your answer. Yes, the template is made up of blank pages. Maybe a Master Page for all pages and a different Master Page for the first page of a new chapter if that's how you like it — same baseline grid but starting lower with the chapter title or something. And the template would also contain all the Paragraph and Character Styles that you use/need. So you save that as a template file. Then, when you want to write a new chapter, open the template file (which, when open, will be called Untitled.indd) and start typing — or importing text and images. Save the file.
As for just using guides, do whatever suits you best. There are always a 100 different ways to do things and everyone has his/her own method. For me, it's the baseline grid.
Usually I set up all the files before I make them into a book — but again, each to his own (or I think 'YMMV' is popular email jargon!). I find it easiest to name the files starting with numbers, i.e., '00 frontmatter.indd', '01 chapter 01.indd' etc. etc. When you've finished all the files, close them, and then from the File menu in InDesign choose New > Book. Call it whatever you call the book. Then drag all the book files (or hit the plus sign at the bottom and navigate to the files) into the Book dialogue box. Once the files are in the Book [box] you can drag them up and down to put them into a different order if necessary. The pages will number automatically, as specified in each file in the Numbering and Sections dialogue box). And voilà, you have your book.
Happy writing.
Ann
Ann Farr
MemberI set up books a lot and the best way is to set up an InDesign template file (Save As filename.indt) of a few pages. With this file open, go to Preferences and set the baseline grid to start from whatever your top margin is and after that whatever the leading is of your body text.
In the master pages of your template file to to View > grids > baseline grid. After that, in your Paragraph Styles > Indents and Spaces and pull down the Align to Grid to All Lines. That way all the text will sit on the baseline grid you set in Preferences, looking neat and consistent all through the book. And with a template file, you can just open it time and time again — and because it will open as an Untitled file, you will be asked to name it when you Save it.
First time I've answered a question in an InDesignSecrets forum. Hope it helps. Fingers crossed.
Thanks
Ann
December 11, 2010 at 2:14 am in reply to: InDesign cannot open files in the "InDesign CS5 format" #58072Ann Farr
MemberThank you so much for the suggestion of setting up a new user. I'll do that and see what happens. Never done it before.
Ann Farr
MemberThat one's available only for Windows … oh well, I'll see if eDocker will let me download another trial version, otherwise I'm stumped! Thanks for the replies.
Ann Farr
MemberI downloaded the FlippingBook HTML edition because the main product only works on Windows and I'm on a Mac. As far as I remember, I had to save each page as a JPG, open various files provided by page flip, configure and all sorts of things. It was quite beyond me and I never seem to have the time to concentrate on anything that's going to take longer to learn than 5-10 minutes.
Ann Farr
MemberIt's a client of mine who just loves his company's brochures to flip pages online — and he subscribes to get this done. So, because I design all the booklets/brochures for him, I made a copy of one, added the page turning transition, exported it (from InD CS5) as a SWF and, as far as I remember, opened the trial version of eDocker which presented me with a sort of 3/4 column interface with nothing very explanatory in it. I think I managed to place the booklet in it and export something which, in FireFox, looked small and disappointingly like the SWF export from InD — where each spread (of 2 pages) was a single page, including the front cover which had a blank page to its left. Euw!
I tried Flipping Book too and don't understand your appealing suggestion, Eugene, of 'loading' the PDF into Flipping Book. It seemed to want me to open a text file and type a list of pages …
I'll see if I can download some more free trials.
Ann Farr
MemberOops — my bad. It's not a script, it's a plugin.
What I need to do is simple. At the bottom of, for instance, page 96 of the 198-page catalogue I need to break the story so that I can save the catalogue in two parts: white pages part 1 and white pages part 2. With all the other stuff in 44 pages (called blue pages), I can then set up a book: white pages part 1, blue pages, white pages part 2, and that deals with page numbering so that I can export each part as a PDF for the printer.
In fact it's already at the printer but I had to Cut (from the top of p97) and Paste into a new document. I suppose that isn't so bad but I'd just like to be able to do it with a simple click (as before with the CleverText plugin from aextra software).
Ann Farr
MemberMmmm, as I thought. Never mind. Many thanks (again) for your reply.
Ann Farr
MemberMmmm, as I thought. Never mind. Many thanks (again) for your reply.
Ann Farr
MemberThank you David and Eugene for your comments. I downloaded a trial copy of each app. Couldn't understand the Finnish explanation of eDocker and the documentation for page-flip must be for programmers although I'm determined to get my brain cell round it. Although eDocker looked very easy to implement, and then I followed the instructions in the page-flip documentation, I must have missed something vital in both because all I got looked/behaved exactly the same as the file exported from InD. I'm off to their forums now to ask questions. Thanks again and fingers crossed.
Ann Farr
MemberThank you David and Eugene for your comments. I downloaded a trial copy of each app. Couldn't understand the Finnish explanation of eDocker and the documentation for page-flip must be for programmers although I'm determined to get my brain cell round it. Although eDocker looked very easy to implement, and then I followed the instructions in the page-flip documentation, I must have missed something vital in both because all I got looked/behaved exactly the same as the file exported from InD. I'm off to their forums now to ask questions. Thanks again and fingers crossed.
Ann Farr
MemberTHANK YOU so much Jongware — you must have been able to hear the shout of delight on your side of the pond (assuming you're in the US). It works! “Well of course” do I hear you say? You've already saved me about half an hour this morning and will save me loads more time. Thank you very much indeed.
Ann Farr
MemberThank you so much Jongware. I'll certainly give this script a go. When the Word doc is Placed and the styles mapped, InD 'knows' the footnotes are footnotes because if I click on a footnote, the ParaStyle highlights 'Footnotes+”. In Type>Footnote Options I've set the style to 'Footnotes' — but somehow that little plus sign always shoes in the ParaStyles panel. I've tried the Find/Change Find Format (footnotes) to Change Format (footnotes) just in case it applies the style by force, so to speak, but nothing happens.
So I'll run the script. Thank you very much for your generosity.
Ann Farr
MemberTHANK YOU so much Jongware — you must have been able to hear the shout of delight on your side of the pond (assuming you're in the US). It works! “Well of course” do I hear you say? You've already saved me about half an hour this morning and will save me loads more time. Thank you very much indeed.
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