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March 12, 2018 at 1:47 am in reply to: Centred paragraph style for a heading with rules/lines #102333
Ann Farr
MemberI must remember snakebite — we’re fond of a ginger beer and bitter shandy (a pint, that is, half and half — bitter being the beer)!
March 11, 2018 at 3:56 am in reply to: Centred paragraph style for a heading with rules/lines #102306MemberThat is THE RIGHT ANSWER AND BRILLIANT! Apologies for the shouting but I’m just so excited. Thank you so much, David, for taking all this trouble. I absolutely love it and am so grateful. A pint the next time you come to England? :)
March 10, 2018 at 2:07 am in reply to: Centred paragraph style for a heading with rules/lines #102293MemberThank you both so much for trying to help — Michel’s video looks interesting and I’d love to see how that paragraph style is built — just what I need (book catalogue for the publisher I work for as he asked me to turn it into more of a ‘magazine-look and feel’) but so far have only covered the stroke behind the text with a white/paper stroke.
Any idea why my underlined em spaces just move the text to the right rather than stay centred? Do em spaces have some sort of weird behaviour that has escaped me?
MemberNo, what a shame, the search engines didn’t find that one and it looks as if it would have done everything I needed.
I tried something that was supposed to work online — but didn’t. Then I bought DjVu to PDF Converter (Nikita Zubkov) from the App store — which did nothing at all, absolutely nothing although I could see (in Preview) the files. And the DjVu2PDF which was the same. And then I got the free DjView.app from DjVu Libre which provided the complicated and long-winded method I described at the beginning. I’m not very patient and after DjVu Libre I gave up looking.
MemberThank you both so much for reading my plight! In the end, I opened one PDF in Acrobat and inserted pages 10 at a time. Disaster!! the pages were inserted numbered back to front! Gah!! And each page had a consecutive numbered filename. Really?!
So I binned that one and eventually found Combine Files which not only got them all (401 pages) into the dialogue box at once but actually in the right order. I then saved the PDF and, with a huge sigh of relief, sent it to the publisher who has, he says, been trying to read these pages for a year!! Brownie point for me then! Now I wonder if I should charge him for two days … probably not I suppose.
Anyway, it’s so great to have InDesignSecrets here. Thank you very much. At least this might provide an answer I suppose for anyone else in the same boat.
MemberHope I’ve done these links correctly:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3qIjq87cSsDM3RWTzhVaGJESmM
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3qIjq87cSsDaVZQZWdrT3VZTkUAs for the thread on Google Groups, I initiated it. Although one person seems to know how to do it (see my earlier post on what he said), he doesn’t quite say how to align objects. I’ve been trying to get the text frames to stay in the column nearest the spine on each page and the pics/captions to stay in the column away from the spine but that doesn’t seem to work.
Anyway, thank you for responding. I’ve been through everything I can find on mirror/reflective pages here, Adobe, YouTube … perhaps I should just get on with doing each book by hand.
MemberHi Andre, thank you. I think I’ve done this and the link is <https://farroutpublications.sharefile.com/d-s3228f3337524abea>
Fingers crossed. ‘Unequal columns.jpg’ shows how this chapter should be and ‘repagination.jpg’ shows what happens when I made a book …MemberHi Anne-Marie,Thank you so much for your reply. I attach a 2-page spread. I’ve been through the whole book now moving the recto pages that should be verso and vice versa — but when the amendments start coming in (which they will in this military history world!), the text, pics and captions will stay where they are as in the ’07 ch 5 experiment’ that I ran at lunch time (in the UK!). I attach ‘unequal columns.jpg’ which is how the book looks now.
I’ve received a pointer from William Adams on the InDesign google list: ‘And no, I’m not still bitter that pretty much every time I’ve taken the effort to create such a document template / layout and to then write up carefully how to use it, that the graphic designers aren’t willing to be disciplined enough to take advantage of such features, choosing instead to draw boxes and create new paragraph styles which over-ride said features. Actually, yes, yes I am. I hate it, and I hate the incompetence which that is a sign of and which one sees in all-too-many contemporary books (such as https://lostartpress.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/virtuoso_excerpt.pdf (how in the Hell Joanna could be a suitable typeface choice for an American book, about a childless Civil War Veteran’s tool cabinet, which is filled w/ fractions and numbers is beyond me — the ragged bottom, many widows, bad breaks and worse hyphenation and trapped whitespace are just salt in the wound) — and of course, there’s the whole matter of their still not fixing the duplicated photo, so that where there should be two pairs of jeweler’s pliers, instead one has a photo of a pair of flat pliers)’
which I haven’t followed yet but have every intention of doing so when there’s a clear moment. I made the two columns following instructions on this website (where else!). Nothing is anchored, I never do in books unless there are references in the margins as opposed to Fns. Pics are always at the top or bottom (or always at the top if there are Fns).
Oh dear, don’t know how to load/submit the files into this …
February 15, 2017 at 2:57 am in reply to: Mystery of missing hyphens when importing Word documents into InD CS6 #92212MemberHi Anne-Marie. Copying and pasting the Word doc into ID brought those hyphens in as ordinary hyphens (don’t understand why but at least I was able to get on with the layout!). Placing the Word doc deleted them. After a couple of lovely people on the InD google group replied (within minutes) with suggestions, I opened the Word doc and hunted in the Advanced Find and Replace > Special and found nonbreaking hyphens (amongst other sorts of hyphen). This gave me ‘^~’ (without quote marks) which I copied and pasted into the Search field of the doc, asked Word to highlight them all which it did, and actually replaced them with an n dash.
Regarding the earlier four books (which were so long and tedious that I hadn’t noticed the missing hyphens), the import into ID missed out hyphens between words as well as numbers, so I’ll just have to pay attention to Word documents a bit more, although the publisher sends files fairly frequently and there’s little time for refinement!
I had already tried saving the Word files as .docx but that made no difference at all. There are several places on the web that describe Word version 7 as having this problem (on import into ID although I’ve stopped at CS6 and the CC versions may, of course, be able to cope) and that MS had, at some time, issued a patch — but I’m not convinced that all five authors use v7 and they certainly don’t understand what I mean about the patch! Sigh!
February 11, 2017 at 11:21 am in reply to: Mystery of missing hyphens when importing Word documents into InD CS6 #92145MemberD’you know what it was? On the Google InDesign group I was advised by a couple of people that perhaps I should search for alternative hyphens. It turns out, in the latest book docs, that every single one of the ‘missing’ hyphens was a nonbreaking hyphen and that it’s known in Word version 7 although MS apparently issued a patch for it. Isn’t that amazing?! Oh I’m so grateful to these groups.
MemberI’ve looked at it now, thank you Ariel, but that doesn’t seem to be the answer. I can’t understand where InD is getting the offset guides and running header/footers from whilst keeping the margins and actual book text layout in the right place. It’s like InD thinks there’s a link to a different master to mix in with the ‘real’ ones. Passes my understanding altogether!!
MemberThank you Dwayne. I’ve tried all sorts of things — deleting prefs and so on. At the moment everyone is in such a rush with the deadline that there isn’t time for setting up anything new — and there are 16 files in this book so it’s no fun!!
MemberNo, that didn’t make any difference. But thanks for trying to help.
MemberNever used this before but am going to give it a go now. Thank you for your helped.
MemberIt’s honestly much easier (even if it takes a bit of time) to start with making separate Word documents of each chapter (I daresay there’s something more intelligent, but I just copy and paste each chapter into a new Word doc). Then set up your book as separate chapters to set up as a book when you’ve finished. This way you can keep those endnotes numbered as they are in the Word documents.
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