Thanks for taking the time out to respond Kenneth. I have been using ‘metrics’ to assess what the kern pair is normally for the letter in question and that has produced perfect results, it also gave me the idea that if I just had all those values for the letters i am using it would make life a whole lot easier as I intend to use Pete kahrels kerning script, if I just had the values i could just enter them into the script, job done.

As i am dealing with a lot of text, translations of entire books, I’m not keen on using optical kerning and I’m just trying to cut down my workload as the ‘metrics’ process is quite time consuming.

Thanks and best wishes

Ok thank you, I’ll check that out. I’m glad to hear all is well. Thanks and best wishes.

Thank you Dwayne, the cut shoulder thing totally makes sense.

The outline is not getting bigger, because it is shifting downward, i have to make the frame bigger to find it.

At least half of the problem is solved!

Thanks agin for your assistance, much appreciated! I hope that all is well with you.

Thanks dwayne. When I think about it, I was sent a pdf and I must have converted it to word. But I am half way through the iD document now and only just noticed, so it would be counter productive to go back to the original.

But thanks again for your help, always appreciated.

Best wishes

That worked a treat Eugene! Thank you!

And Tom this is basically what i did, but i didn’t delete all the pages, that is a great tip!

Thank you so much guys!

I love indesign secrets!

Ok David, so on reflection ‘based on Master pages’ might be a good option. I have realised that there is only element that has to change across the 30 master pages and i can do that easily afterwards.

Are there any articles or tutorials on this that you can recommend?

Thanks again