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  • in reply to: Inhouse setup for 5-up print #54677
    Firedog
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    I had a job to setup, print and trim over 300 invitational postcards in my office. I already made a PDF for the postcards by using data merge, and wanted to place 5 postcards (3 vertically on the top and 2 horizontally at the bottom) on an A3 sheet (landscape). Because it is different to how I normally setup a 5-up print, I had to place and move each page manually to achieve this. What would be the best way to approach this the next time? Thanks in advance.


    Could you do two print runs? Create two ID files, one portrait 420 mm x (the length of a postcard + a bit) for three cards and the other landscape 420 x (the width of a postcard + a bit) for two. Place one postcard at the top/left of the page as appropriate and then datamerge the variable content (1-180 on the first, 181-300 on the second). Work out the orientation and placement of the output, then print the first file, reload the paper and print the other. You'd probably need generous bleed allowances…

    in reply to: Inhouse setup for 5-up print #51534
    Firedog
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    I had a job to setup, print and trim over 300 invitational postcards in my office. I already made a PDF for the postcards by using data merge, and wanted to place 5 postcards (3 vertically on the top and 2 horizontally at the bottom) on an A3 sheet (landscape). Because it is different to how I normally setup a 5-up print, I had to place and move each page manually to achieve this. What would be the best way to approach this the next time? Thanks in advance.


    Could you do two print runs? Create two ID files, one portrait 420 mm x (the length of a postcard + a bit) for three cards and the other landscape 420 x (the width of a postcard + a bit) for two. Place one postcard at the top/left of the page as appropriate and then datamerge the variable content (1-180 on the first, 181-300 on the second). Work out the orientation and placement of the output, then print the first file, reload the paper and print the other. You'd probably need generous bleed allowances…

    in reply to: Paragraph Styles and Table of Contents Odd Problem #54655
    Firedog
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    I'm guessing, but to get your headings (1, 2, 3…) to span both columns, you've put them in separate frames. When ID scans a page for paragraphs to include in the TOC, it starts at the top left-hand corner and moves rightwards. It then scans the first frame it encounters for TOC styles. If it finds one, it records it and then scans downwards to find any others at the same distance from the left-hand edge. When it reaches the bottom of the page, it moves rightwards again to look for frames further in, and so on. The frames with your headings must be a fraction closer to the left-hand edge of the page than the frames containing the sub headings and body copy. The 'x' value of the top left-hand corner of the frame is what counts, and even though they may be identical in the control panel, there could be a tiny difference in the fourth decimal place. You might even be able to see a misalignment if you zoom in as far as possible. Try nudging the headings a point or two further right and see if the problem doesn't go away.

    in reply to: Text on Spine #54654
    Firedog
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    Jongware said:

    The spine should be readable when the book is lying flat on its back, with the front up.

    Am I correctly remembering that the German style is the other way around? (And do they have a logical reason, other than “It's been done like this fur years”?)


    There are only three German books on the shelf in here, and they all have the spine text upside down, so you're probably right. I did the same on the first book I ever laid out, and got all kinds of abuse for it. While the idea that the spine text should be the right way up when the book is lying face-up on the table has much to commend it, the German fashion has, too. If you're browsing a long bookshelf, reading the spines from top to bottom* (the way we normally read) involves reading from left to right, as normal. If the books have their spines printed non-German-wise, you have to either read bottom up or right to left, both of which feel uncomfortable to me.

    *This is not easy to put in words. I imagine a very tall pile of books on its side, because I have my head tilted while browsing. And it seems most natural to read from the top of that pile to the bottom rather than vice versa.

    in reply to: Paragraph Styles and Table of Contents Odd Problem #51632
    Firedog
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    I'm guessing, but to get your headings (1, 2, 3…) to span both columns, you've put them in separate frames. When ID scans a page for paragraphs to include in the TOC, it starts at the top left-hand corner and moves rightwards. It then scans the first frame it encounters for TOC styles. If it finds one, it records it and then scans downwards to find any others at the same distance from the left-hand edge. When it reaches the bottom of the page, it moves rightwards again to look for frames further in, and so on. The frames with your headings must be a fraction closer to the left-hand edge of the page than the frames containing the sub headings and body copy. The 'x' value of the top left-hand corner of the frame is what counts, and even though they may be identical in the control panel, there could be a tiny difference in the fourth decimal place. You might even be able to see a misalignment if you zoom in as far as possible. Try nudging the headings a point or two further right and see if the problem doesn't go away. 

    in reply to: Text on Spine #51639
    Firedog
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    Jongware said:

    The spine should be readable when the book is lying flat on its back, with the front up.

    Am I correctly remembering that the German style is the other way around? (And do they have a logical reason, other than “It's been done like this fur years”?)


    There are only three German books on the shelf in here, and they all have the spine text upside down, so you're probably right. I did the same on the first book I ever laid out, and got all kinds of abuse for it. While the idea that the spine text should be the right way up when the book is lying face-up on the table has much to commend it, the German fashion has, too. If you're browsing a long bookshelf, reading the spines from top to bottom* (the way we normally read) involves reading from left to right, as normal. If the books have their spines printed non-German-wise, you have to either read bottom up or right to left, both of which feel uncomfortable to me.

    *This is not easy to put in words. I imagine a very tall pile of books on its side, because I have my head tilted while browsing. And it seems most natural to read from the top of that pile to the bottom rather than vice versa.

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