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• • November 5, 2010 at 8:09 am #57591
    Anonymous

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    Hi Guys, i've got a magazine printing logistics issue

    So I want to print my magazine. As I have been working on it I have been using double page spreads, for me this was the most efficient way to do it, and visually it allowed me to see how the magazine would actually look in the end.

    However – the problem is my printer wants all the pages of the magazine submitted as single page pdfs. And I have found that when you apply bleed in Indesign it will apply it to the spread as a whole, and not to each individual page.

    I could turn the whole document into a single column document (one page at a time going down), however on some of my double page spreads I have pictures which go across the whole spread.

    So what is the best way to do this? How can I maintain a double page spread but also have bleed along all four sides of the page, rather than just three (because when I try and apply bleed to a whole double page, only the three outer sides of each page will get this bleed mark.

    Really hope someone can advise me, thanks

  • November 5, 2010 at 8:49 am #57592
    Anonymous

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    Just export it as single pages with crop marks – offset the crop marks a little more than the bleed (you'll find these settings in the Marks and Bleed)

    Any bleed that is towards the spine will be outside the crop marks, and even if a sliver is left over after cutting it will most likely end up in being burried in the spine.

  • November 5, 2010 at 2:57 pm #57597
    Anonymous

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    Thanks eugene.

    If I was to do this, how would I work with the document? I.e – Say for example I have an image on Page 3 of my mag, and that image goes towards the edges of the page on page 3, I would have to spread it further than the edge of the document (to account for the bleed), but this would mean that as I am working with it it would interfere with the things that are on page 2 …

    Is this just something I have to put up with?

  • November 6, 2010 at 1:45 am #57603
    Anonymous

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    Just make sure that any image that is near the spine butts right up against it, not 1mm before it, and not 1mm over it, but just right.

    If you go 1 mm before the spine, then there is a chance a very small sliver of white will be shown when it's printed. If you go over the spine area, then you risk the image being shown on the adjacent pages.

  • November 6, 2010 at 6:04 am #57604
    Anonymous

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    Eugene tyson = top man!

    Thanks

    Also, when you say offset the crop marks just a bit more than the bleed, the bleed is 3mm – is offsetting the crop marks at 3.117mm sufficient?

  • November 6, 2010 at 6:39 am #57605
    Anonymous

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    But Eugene – the thought just struck me –

    If I do take the image right up to the spine of the page, then when I do export it onto pdf as single file then the bleed which is next to the spine will include part of the image from the adjacent page, is that right?

    I'm just wondering – if the printer does make a mistake and only cuts 2mm into the bleed (instead of the full three), does this mean that that page will include part of the image from the page which is adjacent to it?

    And if the printer was to make a double mistake, say a mistake on the adjacent page (say for example they only cut 1mm into the bleed on the adjacent page), then this page will include part of the image from that first page – the page on the left.

    Is this what will happen? Will it cause a visual problem for the reader?

  • November 6, 2010 at 7:17 am #57606
    Anonymous

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    If the printer is making that many mistakes ask for a refund.

    I addressed that question in my original post too :)

    The bleed on the adjacent page will include part of the image – but that sits outside the crop marks, so it won't be trimmed off. 2mm is a huge mark to miss by, usually the shift is only about .5mm or less, but I guess weirder things have happened.

    There's no need to worry about this – it works out in the end.

  • November 6, 2010 at 10:13 am #57607
    Anonymous

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    haha, thats true. Im sure they wont make that big a mistake, i think im just thinking of worst case scenario … i guess im just worried because its first time.

    okay cool, im gonna started aon these adjustmenst now…

    so 3.117mm is ok for the crop ?(the bleed is 3mm)

  • November 6, 2010 at 10:37 am #57608
    Anonymous

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    Yeh should be fine

    You don't want anything in the bleed other than the artwork. The bleed is to compensate for errors in trimming, so if you have crop marks (or anything else) in the bleed area then you run the risk of those turning up in the printed piece.

    So always offset your crop marks more than your bleed

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