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Two page spread, sort of!

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    • #62279
      Anonymous
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      I am creating an 8.5×11 saddle stapled instruction book with pattern templates in the middle. The templates take up an entire 11×17 page so I would like the middle pages to be removable. When opened up and the double pages separated, the templates would be spread across one 11×17 page. So the spread would not be facing pages accept in the center. Can this be done? Or is it best to create two files, one for the instructions and the second the templates? Thanks for any help!

    • #62280

      Contrary to what you think, your entire document will be using facing pages!

      an 8.5×11 saddle stapled instruction book ..

      — that means that whatever you do, the document will be printed as having “facing pages”, even if you set it up to have single pages in your ID document itself. Compare, for example, if you add a three-page spread somewhere inside your document. No matter what you do, without special instructions to the printer each page will end up on a separate page and you'll end up with three separate pages in your stapled document.

      That is, unless … you output create your final PDF with the option “Print as Spreads” on. But you should definitely not be doing that if you're going to send the PDF to a professional printer!

      So you can create your document any way convenient to you.

      But if your final output is to be printed “as usual”, that is, not loose-leafed, I strongly suggest you use facing pages throughout, so you get a good sense of what the final product is going to look like. For loose-leafed, single pages make more sense (because that is, in fact, “how it's going to like like”) but you cannot insert a double-page spread in a loose-leafed document because it won't be printing that way. Not even if you create the document that way — the information of which pages are side by side to which others is only visible inside ID, and not exported into single-page PDFs. (Unless you export with “Spreads” — but I assure you your printer won't like that a bit!)

    • #62330
      Alan Gilbertson
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      If your full-spread patterns are to be removable (and usable!) each one must be on one side of a full double page. They won't end up that way if you lay them out in one INDD and send a regular PDF to the printer to saddle-stitch. So yes, you should make two files, one for the instructions and the other for the templates.

      Coordinate with the printer about manufacture. Your templates would need to be collated with the instruction booklet, folded and, if you absolutely must, stapled into the center of the booklet so that they can be extracted in a usable form.

    • #62333
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Jongware, I am well aware the entire document uses facing pages but a loose-leafed document is an interesting idea. Thanks for your input.

    • #62334
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Thanks for the advise Alan. I like your idea of keeping it simple, with two separte files. It makes sense especially since the instructions are in full color and the templates are simple black and white illustrations. But will it cost more? I guess that would be an question for the printer.

    • #62467
      chrisb123
      Participant

      This question is similar to a project that I am working on:

      I am working on an 128-page “show guide” for a convention with many ads inserted (with bleeds), plus articles. I was having a problem with InDesign trying to allow for creep for me and so I changed my document from facing pages to single pages. I do, however, want to have an image spread across facing pages for the center spread. Should I also create a separate file for the center spread or is there a way to tell the native fiile that I want to “connect two pages?”

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