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• • March 2, 2014 at 1:56 am #67402
    Patrick Dawson

    Member

    I have a problem with text in a column wrapping onto two lines in CS6 windows
    The column measure is 42.5mm
    The text contains 4 cross references (just the page number) and uses a character style. This wraps onto two leaving about 13mm of white space on the right hand margin. It should fit.
    If I repeat it with the cross references converted to normal text but with the same character style applied, the text fits perfectly on one line.

    So the question is what happens to the text to make it wrap when the cross refs are used? Is there a way to resolve?

    Thanks

    Patrick

  • March 2, 2014 at 11:41 am #67405
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Hard to know. Perhaps the character style has No Break assigned to it, or some other formatting that is causing some reflow?

  • March 2, 2014 at 11:59 am #67406
    Patrick Dawson

    Member

    Good thought. I’ve checked the styles and can’t see anything obvious. I’ve got round the problem by putting it into a frame and anchoring it.
    It’s a phaf though!
    Patrick

  • March 27, 2014 at 6:57 am #67762
    David Loveday

    Member

    I have a similar problem where Figures and numbers are concerned. Basically I need to place a non-breaking space between the word Figure and the number x, so they do not end up on two separate lines at the edge of a column, but I cannot determine how to construct the right code to apply in the “block building” code. Normally, I would use ctrl-alt-x in running text, but in the cross reference function, even using the special character feature, I am unable to find the correct solution. Can anyone help, please?
    (This is my first question – sorry if it’s in the wrong category…)

    • March 27, 2014 at 9:19 am #67764
      Patrick Dawson

      Member

      David: I’m pretty well a first time user as well!

      I think I’ve solved my problem so try this and see if it helps: look at the paragraph style justification field for the paragraph you are having the problem with. The problem I had was that the composer was set (sorry don’t know if this is a default) to “Adobe World-Ready Single-Line”. Changing this setting to “Adobe Single-Line” has corrected my problem. From what I can make out World-Ready composition is used for languages that read from right to left.

      I can’t see this as a preference so I guess it is necessary to alter this in all paragraphs so that they act the same way.

      Hope this solves your problem as well.

      Patrick

  • March 28, 2014 at 9:51 am #67791
    David Loveday

    Member

    Thank you, Patrick, for your prompt response. I did try your suggestion, but unfortunately,

    none of the several choices in the “Composer” field worked for me. Our “default” is set to

    Adobe Paragraph Composer. It’s most unfortunate that Adobe do not have a simple way of

    defining the parameters for the building blocks code. I’ll continue working on this. In the

    meantime, have you discovered an elegant way of cross-referencing something similar to “See

    Figures 1 to 3”? Until I find a better way, I’m showing, “See Figure 1, Figure 2 and Figure 3”,

    which is a bit long-winded. Thanks again for your help.

    • March 28, 2014 at 11:13 am #67793
      Patrick Dawson

      Member

      Hi David Sorry to hear that. Do let me know if you manage to sort it out

      In answer to your “See figures 1 to 3” query, the way we handle it is to only use the actual page number and then type in what we want to see round them rather than relying on the CS suggestions. I know that you can set up new narratives within the cross refs but this has proved somewhat problematic for us. I guess this is what you are refering to as the building blocks.

      So we would do: “See figures” [cross ref] “to” [cross ref]. The [cross ref] being the live cross ref and the “???” being what is typed in the text. In your long winded example it would look like “See Figure” [Cross ref 1]”, Figure” [cross ref 2] “and Figure” [cross ref 3]”.”

      This is not very well written but I hope you get the jist and that it offers you a solution as it effectively cuts out the building block. The downside is that there is extra typing but it would allow you to put the non breaking spaces in where you want them.

    • March 28, 2014 at 5:30 pm #67797
      David Loveday

      Member

      Hi Patrick, thanks for your input. I’ll look into your suggestions and see if I can fit them into a workable solution for these issues. I will get back to let you know.

  • March 31, 2014 at 11:13 am #67804
    David Loveday

    Member

    Hello Patrick:
    I posted my (two-line) question on the Adobe InDesign forum and I received an interesting reply that did help, although not in its entirety. I used part of a respondent’s solution, by creating a Character Style – something that we’re not in the habit of using – (in the same style as the regular body text, but with the no break checkbox selected). Now, once all of the cross references have been applied, I scan the document for Figure x, where it appears on two lines and just apply the Character Style to that reference. In a recent 30-page document, I encountered two instances…It may not be the best solution, but I’m satisfied with the result.
    I have yet to try your suggestion regarding the grouping of figure numbers in the text. I’ll let you know.
    Thanks for your help.

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