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• • August 20, 2012 at 9:58 am #62936
    nicds

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    Hi

    This may be a very simple fix but I've searched and can't find the answer.

    In a book, I have a running header text variable which picks up the “Topic Head”. Some of the topic heads are quite long and need to run over 2 lines in the running head. I've created a box big enough but the text won't flow onto the 2nd line.

    See screenshot below.

    

    Does anyone know how to get running head to run onto the second line.

    Thanks so much

  • August 20, 2012 at 10:54 am #62937
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Right, InDesign's headers/variables can't do that. You'd need to use something like Power Headers from In-Tools.com.

  • August 20, 2012 at 11:57 pm #62946
    nicds

    Member

    Thanks David. Well the good news is that I'm not going insane.

    Downloaded the trial of Power Headers but that doesn't seem to do it either.

    I'll just need to make manual master pages for those headings that are long then.

    Thanks very much for letting me know.

  • August 21, 2012 at 6:00 am #62951
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    I'm quite sure Power Headers can do two-line headings. I've seen it. (It was used for the Harry Potter books, which often needed that for long chapter heads.) If the manual doesn't help, contact the developer and he'll be able to help you.

    (In fact, the developer, Harbs, once told me that he'd give free software to anyone who came up with a real-world header need that Power Headers could not help with.) :)

  • March 7, 2013 at 10:23 am #64352
    Brett Stone

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    My cheap trick* for this type of problem:
    (works when you don't have any character styles applied to the 'source' paragraph)

    1. Create character styles that can be applied in a string-like fashion to the paragraph

       • Ex: One, Two, Three, Four (if two lines is the max you would have, then you only need two.)
       • These don't apply any particular styles, but just identify which 'parts' of the paragraph are to appear on line one, two, three, etc.

    2. In Paragraph style for the source paragraph

       • Add nested styles in order, each ending at an “end nested style here” marker
       • In this scenario,

         • if you DON'T enter a “end nested style here” int he paragraph text, the whole paragraph would have char-style “One” applied to it.
         • If you do enter a marker, the paragraph is “One” before the marker, and “Two” after, etc

    3. Redefine your text variable to be based on character style instead of paragraph style.

       • You'll need two or more variables (one for “One”, for “Two”, etc)

    4. On master pages (you are using master pages, right? in your runnning head

       1. • (I recall CS5 and CS6 handle this space differently — test it and if you end up with two spaces on your page just delete the space between)
          • What you see on the master pages may look odd based on the length of the text variable's name. Ideally, if your variable names are long it will display on two lines, just like you anticipate in your layout.

       • String the text variables with a single space between

       • If the text is long enough, the running head will split at the variable instead of smashing onto a single line.

    *Davids and Harbs tools are probably more elegant, and aren't even expensive, but by necessity I have to work cheap.

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