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Syncing Styles with in a "Book"?

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    • #55471
      erickp
      Member

      Hey Guys…

      I haven't tried it yet but I have 10 documents/chapters in 1 book. At some point, in lets say chapter 7, I decided to group all my p-styles to make things all tidy. When I sync my styles, will it apply all the p-style groups/folders into all the other documents? Also, if it does will all the rogue styles that I might have missed (do to import from another document) be left alone and reside by themselves? Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!

      ~e

    • #55473
      erickp
      Member

      Ok… so I decided to just give it a go. I opened chapter 7 within my book and grouped all my p-styles into nice neat folders. I went to the book sync options and just selected to sync “p-styles”. After the sync finished, it took all the p-styles I just put in the folders and popped the outside of all the folders and of-course the groups/folders didn't apply to any of the other documents. Is there a way to sync, so it copies all the p-style groups/folders into all the documents with in the book?

    • #55500
      isteiner
      Member

      Hey Erick,

      You already read some of my thoughts on Organizing Styles as it relates to style inheritance. There's also a fundamental issue with syncing based on style names and folders.

      If your style source document has the folders in it, your destination documents that you're syncing to will also have the folders. Others have pointed out that “syncronization” isn't two-way. Styles will come from whichever document is defined as the sync source.

      When you edit one of the other documents (adding styles, sorting into folders), but the edited document isn't defined as the sync source, nothing will change. Changes in other documents won't be global unless you sync from the edited document. This is because you may not need EVERY style in every document. However, be careful if you re-organize your styles into folders AFTER you've already assigned the styles in the documents. You will end up with duplicate styles because InDesign only syncs based on style names and folder names.

      So, be very wise when using style folders.

      Below are more of my thoughts on syncing styles with Folders…

      Importing folders

      It might be better to think of “syncronization” between documents in a book more like “Importing.” You're in effect choosing from a range of styles, master pages, color swatches, etc. and having them added to a destination document. If the destination document already has a style of the same name, it will not add a new style, but instead import the incoming style definition.

      The sync recognizes styles based on folder name and style name. If the destination document does not have the styles in folders, you will get the folders and enclosed styles added to the destination (and they'll likely be duplicates). If it's not a complex document, you can delete the old styles that aren't in the new folders and re-assign the content to the imported styles (inside folders) when prompted.

      Name folders wisely & avoid renaming

      When you define your folders for styles, name them well as you will not want to change them after you've “synced” from the source document to the rest of the book. Again, InDesign will think that it's a different folder in the destination document and will create a new folder with the source document styles.

      Does this help?

    • #66315
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      How do you establish which document within a ‘book’ (indb file) is the master? I got this to work once in CS4 —I seem to remember it was in the flyout menu from within the paragraph styles, but can’t find it now in CC. Your help greatly appreciated!

      • #66454

        Hopefully you have your answer already, but just in case you are still looking for this answer-when you open your book panel, there are a number of boxes to the left of each document within the book. One of the boxes will have a small icon (a large page with an arrow pointing to three smaller squares) in it. This shows which of the documents is your “master”-the documents that all the others will synchronize with. You can select a different document to be the master by simply clicking in the box to the left of the document you want to identify as the master document.

        Also, before synchronizing, please make sure to set the appropriate Synchronize options (accessed through the dropdown menu in the upper right of the book panel). I have “synchronize master pages” turned off as a default because otherwise anytime you synchronize you run the risk of losing many of the master page overrides you might have made throughout your document-ask me how I know that…

    • #100858
      Anne Berten
      Member

      Has ID improved the syncing style folders feature? I am building a 288 page yearbook. My publisher needs each individual spread as separate documents. Our styles are a mess; I cleaned them up with folders and renaming in my master style document but ID does not remove/sync the new cleaned up paragraph styles panel. Is it true that I have to go through and individually clean up each document?

    • #100868

      Anne, syncing has not improved. Have a look at the script, search in styles.

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