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• • April 17, 2015 at 8:34 am #74799
    Emma Douglas

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    Hi,

    Hope someone can help please.

    I have a PDF of our company’s Letterhead which when opened in Illustrator shows the right Pantone Swatches in the Swatch window.
    When either copying or pasting the vector shapes into InDesign, or placing the PDF, I am loosing the spots profiles,converting a 2 spot document into a CMYK document.

    I’ve tried re-saving the PDF with no colour conversion from Illustrator, turned off the right things for C+Ping but I’m still not having any luck preserving the spot colours.

    Obviously I can use Illustrator for edits and making new PDFs for the Letterhead but I was hoping to covert most things to InDesign and didn’t want to have to remake everything just to keep the colours.

    And placing PDF’s which then don’t keep their spots after editing is a little concerning!

    Does anyone have any ideas what is going on??

    Thanks for reading.

    Emma

  • April 17, 2015 at 9:21 am #74800
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    I wouldn’t trust copying and pasting to save too much. It’s really just for saving simple vector shapes that you’re going to further edit in InDesign.

    But placing a PDF or AI file should work just fine! Try saving from Illustrator as a .ai file and placing that into a new document in InDesign. Does the spot color appear in the Swatches panel? If not, it’s possible that it’s not actually a spot color in AI and just looks like one.

  • April 17, 2015 at 10:24 pm #74807
    Alan Gilbertson

    Participant

    As David says, you can place the .ai file directly in InDesign. There’s no need to save as a PDF first, although it should make no difference to the outcome.

    An InDesign document is always either CMYK or RGB, but what will actually output to PDF will be whatever is actually in the document. If there are spot colors, there will be spot plates. If there’s no CMYK, then the CMYK plates will be blank and you’ve nothing to worry about.

    Before you panic, check a couple of things in InDesign:

    – In the Swatches panel flyout menu, select Ink Manager and verify that the spot colors are there and that “All Spots to Process” is NOT checked.

    – Now open the Separations Preview (Window > Output > Separations Preview). If you see your spot colors, click the CMYK eyeball to turn off those plates. The logo should remain visible. Turn on CMYK and click the eyeballs for the spot colors. Logo should disappear and only other non-Pantone items should be visible. If that’s the case, you can relax.

    If you DON’T see the spot colors in InDesign, then they’re not there in the Illustrator file, no matter what Illustrator’s swatches panel tells you. A spot color can be a solid ink or it can be a CMYK formula (e.g., Pantone Bridge colors).

    If a PMS solid color has been converted to CMYK, it will still appear as a spot color in the Illustrator swatches panel, and it will still have its original Pantone designation, but it won’t actually be a Pantone Solid ink. Double-click the swatch to reveal its true nature!

  • May 8, 2015 at 2:40 pm #75247
    Michael Maslowski

    Member

    I apply color to text to know easily what style is applied to a paragraph but I always want black only text when I export a PDF. I get that by using a PDF export preset that has in the output setting changing color conversion to “convert to Destination” and changing destination to “Black & White” with profile inclusion policy set to “Don’t include profiles.”

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