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• • June 2, 2015 at 2:48 am #75763
    Murat Ince

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    I had an issue a few months back where I had to produce a 16pp document using PSD files within InDesign and it made my indd file very slow to work with.
    To be expected.

    More recently, using the same photshop files (bear in mind these were all high res files – approx A5 to A3@300dpi) I had to produce an A7 lanyard with 10 pages.
    The Indd file was again, massive in size – approx 1.3GB.

    So, I did the obvious and reduced the files size for all the imagery, using only what was required (100% size small imagery @300dpi).
    However, this DID NOT, alter the file size of the Indd document – still being 1.35GB!

    My only work around was (after much trial and error) was to open each PSD file (irrelevant of file size) and copy the contents of each psd into a new empty psd file and save over the old file.

    Immediately, my Indd file was reduced to a mere 300MB.

    HAS ANYONE COME ACROSS THIS BEFORE???!

    It drove me crazy!
    :)

  • June 2, 2015 at 8:32 am #75765
    Colleen Shannon

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    • Are you Placing/Linking to your images? (You should not embed them by copying/pasting, etc.) If you are copying/pasting (embedding) a lot of vector artwork, that can slow things down too.

    • Turn off View->Overprint Preview until you need it

    • Try saving images as 300 dpi JPEGs (no compression) or flattened TIFs

    • Occasionally, do Save As in InDesign, which will lower the file size, or Export to .idml and open as a new .indd file

    • Is this for print or digital use only? For print, color photos should be CMYK, digital: RGB (smaller file size)

  • June 2, 2015 at 11:05 am #75767
    Andre Vandal

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    Sadly removing stuff from indesign does not entirely reduce it, it keeps records of every move you made. Your best bet is to save your document IDML and reload it again, this should clear it up bit more.

  • June 3, 2015 at 12:47 am #75777
    Murat Ince

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    Images were always linked as PSD or TIFF – flat or not, they still made the indesign file large…
    Vector imagery was also linked as EPS and AI files.
    The Save As did not work at the time (I did try this for other jobs using the same assets to no avail).
    All artwork was for print (and for a very large client), it goes without saying all assets were resaved and flattened to 4 colour 300dpi imagery.

    The only option I haven’t tried was the idml file and re-open as Indd file.

    One of the retoucher lads in here where I work, reckoned that each image must have stored IT systems-related-info to do with the studios that had setup the facilities of the studios who provided me with the assets (!!) Sounds a little far fetched but I’m slightly inclined to believe it.

    Seriously people. My only option that worked was taking all the layers from each PSD file and placing into a new file of the same size, and saving it as a tiff/psd etc.

    The most bizarre InDesign problem I’ve encountered in my 15 years or so in the profession.

  • June 3, 2015 at 4:18 am #75786
    Eugene Tyson

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    I’d save as PDF from Photoshop, with PSDs and Tiffs – vector shapes, vector masks and text is rasterised to the native resolution of the photoshop file when placed in InDesign. It’s fine for outputting directly from Photoshop, but once placed and made a PDF of from InDesign the text is rasterised (or any other program).

    You can save a Photoshop PDF with all the layers in tact that is editable in Photoshop again.

    All I can think of is that there was some level of corruption building up in the files and copying to a new file removed that build up of corrupt data.

    I’ve had it before with InDesign files themselves, but I don’t generally make 16pp booklets with Photoshop – ever.

  • June 4, 2015 at 1:39 am #75809
    Murat Ince

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    I think you’re probably right about the corruption build up in the psds.
    After moving the contents of the original PSD to a new PSD file, I checked file info within photoshop and the RAW tab in the original files were HUGE, but after moving to a new file, it became a lot smaller. So I reckon it was that, that was causing me the problems within InDesign.

    16pp brochure with Photoshop?
    I agree Eugene, who do you know would make a 16pp brochure with photoshop??!!

  • June 4, 2015 at 5:50 am #75812
    Eugene Tyson

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    Believe me, I’ve seen worse!

  • June 4, 2015 at 6:11 am #75813
    Murat Ince

    Member

    haha! Same here.

    We do have some designers who prefer to do everything in photoshop, but they’re all for visual purposes. So naturally when it all goes to artwork InDesign is always the favoured app.

    But I do hear ya, i’ve seen some shockers too.

    Cheers for your help.
    Thank you everyone.

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