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    • #74313
      paul ponge
      Member

      Hi there,

      I have a 300-odd page document (book) comprising many short texts (some with images), each running from between 1–5 pages. The document is laid out, but now, at the last minute, one text has to be removed – which means deleting one left-hand page somewhere in the middle of the document. When I delete this page it destroys the design of all the following pages by re-applying the master page to all the following pages. Since the master page includes a couple of text wrap options this completely annihilates the lay-out.

      Any solutions would be MUCH appreciated.

      Best,

      Paul

    • #74316
      David Blatner
      Keymaster

      What do you want to have happen? If a right-hand page becomes a left-hand page, what should happen?
      This is a very old problem, and a very difficult one, especially when the design has not accounted for the possibility for this kind of change from the beginning.

    • #74317
      paul ponge
      Member

      Hi David,

      Thanks for your response.

      So, when I delete the unneeded left-hand page, I’d like the following pages to retain their layout. What seems to be happening is that Indesign reapplies the master pages to all the pages following the one I deleted. Is there a way to prevent this?

      Another problem: the running heads (author name/page number) are set symmetrically on the spread, i.e. the page number is in the top left-hand corner of the left page and in top the right-hand corner of right page. Author names are in the top right-hand corner of the left page and the top left-hand corner of the right page. When a left page becomes a right page (or vice versa) I’d like these to switch according to the design.

      Is this clear? As you imply, I suspect there are things I should have done differently in setting up the document/design, but I’m not sure what that would have been nor how to solve it now…

      Thanks,

      Paul

    • #74348
      Alan Gilbertson
      Participant

      Paul, at this point I’d be casting around for an excuse *not* to delete that leftover laevo. For example, if there is any logical break in the sequence of topics, or any other reasonable pretext, I would put some kind of graphic or marker on the otherwise-blank page. (It is standard practice for a new chapter to begin on a right hand page (recto), even if the facing page is blank, so this isn’t such an outrageous idea.)

      Assuming that’s not possible:

      InDesign assigns the corresponding master pages to the left (laevo) and right (recto) pages of each spread. It applies the master to the *page*, not to the *content*. When you remove a single page, then, every subsequent page is now on the opposite side. What was a recto has become a laevo, and vice versa. That’s the way InDesign works.

      The first workaround that occurs to me is to set up a second master spread as a mirror image of the original, so that what currently is on the left page goes to the right and what was on the right goes to the left. That’s the kind of thing you can do in a layout that would never work in politics. But I digress.

      In the pages panel, select all the problem pages (click on the first one, shift-click on the last one). Apply the new master to them in one shot by picking “Apply Master to Pages…” from the Pages panel flyout menu and choosing your mirror-image master spread.

      For the future, you can avoid running head issues like the one you describe. Extend the author name text frames the full width of their respective pages. In the paragraph style for the author name, go to the Indents and Spacing section and select “Toward Spine” or “Away from Spine” from the Alignment dropdown, depending on where you want them to appear. You can do the same with page numbers and other items that must be placed toward or away from the spine. In your particular scenario, you’d have two text frames, one directly above the other: one for the page number and one for the author name.

    • #92658
      Susan Sien
      Member

      I cannot the link to REMOVE all existing page numbers and magazine year / volume/ etc.
      I checked the page to find the right one to delete all existing page numbers etc.

      Thanks

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