First if you do remove the newer swatch books from the program swatch folder and use an older version of Pantone color books, I copied from a previous version and pasted into the CS6 folder then removed the new one, that seemed to work. But since that solution would get me in trouble I found another way. The work around solution I came up with was if you add your spot cmyk colors to the pallett before you place your document they will not convert to LAB. For instance I had to place a pdf with PMS 287 U into InDesign. If I just placed it in there it showed the LAB version. So I did a new color swatch, chose PANTONE+ Solid Uncoated then picked 287 U as a spot color (and it doesn't seem to matter if you use the new + book or an older version) then I went to the Color Mode drop down and chose CMYK then added it and placed my pdf. I had a cmyk swatch and was able to rip it perfectly. This works for placed images, but you have to add the swatch prior to placing it in the InDesign doc or it will add the color as LAB and it will not let you modify it. If your building a new doc, when adding your swatches just be sure to go to color mode and change to cmyk and you will be good to go. I hope this helps some one else who may have this same problem.