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Maintaining paragraph styles with updated .rtf

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    • #87319
      Anonymous
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      Couldn’t find any answers online, so maybe it’s so dumb a question I just can’t see the forest through the trees. I’ve got a client for whom I write press releases. I have a stylish template I’ve made for her in InDesign, and basically write the press release in Text Edit, save as an RTF, place it and apply styles. I send the RTF to my client for her to tweak things, and when she saves and sends it back, I simply update the InDesign file.

      Here’s the problem. When doing so, all the styles I set up in the file are wiped out (InDesign tells me ahead of time this will happen with a warning dialog box), and I have to reapply the styles. Not a big deal with a one-page press release or a white sheet, but what if this was a huge document? I’ve tried inspecting the import options window for clues, but see nothing that I might be doing wrong. I understand how this might be an issue with tables if you haven’t meticulously set up table styles ahead of time, but this seems like such a no brainer, that styles should be maintained in a simple, placed and updated text file.

      Ideas? Greatly appreciated.

      Tice

    • #87320

      From a technical point of view, there is no ‘simply update a file’. InDesign will place this file, as if it were never in your document.

      So the idea is:
      1. Create a template with styles in InDesign
      2. Export a file to rtf
      3. The texter write in this file and use your styles
      4. Update your file

      If the texter use your styles and you did nothing in your document, you should get the right result.

      If you want a bit more comfort, you should try wordsflow from emsoft.

      Also I can recommend Anne Maries Title on InDesign/Word-Workflow at Lynda.com.

      Kai

    • #87323
      Anonymous
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      Thank you.

    • #87355
      Gert Verrept
      Member

      You could take a look at https://emsoftware.com/products/wordsflow/. This works great.

    • #87356
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Very interesting. Never heard of it. Thank you very much.

    • #87381

      I remember several years ago when we stopped exporting files as RTF as it was buggy.

      The company I work for does a lot of keyboarding of manuscript, which we send back to the designers and they import. They were stuck in their ways that they could only import Word or RTF files. They never heard of tagged text files.

      Since we used XTags, we’d have it keyboarded using Quark codes (as it’s easier and faster than keying ID codes). For example, just key @TX: instead of <parastyle:text>.

      Anyway–we’d flow it in into a blank ID document, and export as RTF.

      But starting with CS6–InDesign no longer liked RTF files. The file would flow in–but the default justification (i.e., metric, optical) would not come through. And the RTF file would not pick up the designer’s point size/leading. Even though the style sheet was set up properly. The RTF files simply would not work.

      It had always worked from CS3 through CS5.5–so something in CS6 was changed. It was not a case of importing it wrong.

      So we finally convinced them to accept tagged text files. For that–we import using xTAgs, and then export as tagged text files.

      Only problem is that half the time, when they import the tagged text file, it comes through with all the codes and not formatted. So we have to go into the tagged text file, add a space somewhere, delete it, and save. And then re-send it. And viola–it works.

      And the real kicker–we have to use on Mac to do this. Only saving the .txt file in Word 2004 will work. Anything higher and it’s a crap shoot. And it’s weird–some folks can import the same file with no problems, but others have it come in wrong. No rhyme or reason–except InDesign doesn’t recognize a properly tagged text file half the time. Never mind–InDesign was the one who exported the tagged text file. One would think it would know how to do that.

      Sorry for the rant.

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