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• • April 16, 2015 at 2:41 am #74708
    Mathilde

    Member

    Hi!
    I’ve made a GREP style changing all numbers to superscript, but I need it to make exceptions for drop caps that are also numbers. Any suggestions?
    Needless to say, I’m pretty new to GREP styles in general.

    Appreciate any help!

  • April 16, 2015 at 5:11 am #74716
    Dwayne Harris

    Member

    I’m taking it you have the GREP style in your paragraph style sheets?

    Do you have separate paragraph styles for drop cap paragraphs?

    If so, don’t include that GREP style in those.

    Or am I misunderstanding?

  • April 16, 2015 at 7:33 am #74723
    Mathilde

    Member

    Thanks for replying!
    That’s right – I have two different paragraph style sheets, one for drop cap paragraphs and one for regular paragraphs. The problem is that I need the the numbers in the drop cap paragraph to be superscript as well – except from the drop cap itself. The layout/formatting of my document and text is similar to a typical Bible, with lots of ‘verses’ marked with numbers in superscript and then the chapters starting with a drop cap number.

    • April 16, 2015 at 3:04 pm #74741
      Dwayne Harris

      Member

      I’ve done my share of the bibles in the past, but that was in the Quark days.

      I’m not sure how you can get those drop cap numbers to work. I just tried an experiment using a character style for the drop cap (making sure it was normal and not superscript), the GREP ignores it.

      ****

      Did another test–I did something different for the drop cap paragraph style. I deleted the grep thing.

      Then I set up a nested styles for it instead.

      1) None through one character
      2) None up to 1 digit
      3) Superior [character stylesheet] up to one space band
      4) Repeat last 2 styles.

      Note: I had to use a space, as I’m guessing that there will always be a space following the superior figure, or a hard return, which won’t matter if it’s superior. And I’m guessing any punctuation would be before the digits.

      Maybe you can do something like that for the drop cap paragraph styles.

  • April 17, 2015 at 12:03 am #74754
    Mathilde

    Member

    Thank you so much, Dwayne!

    A bit more tedious than I was hoping for, but it works perfectly :)

    • April 17, 2015 at 3:55 am #74755
      Dwayne Harris

      Member

      I’m glad it works, Mathilde. It was the only thing I could think of after experimenting. Good luck with the job.

  • May 13, 2015 at 1:08 pm #75340
    Christina Rowland

    Member

    I’m hoping that this is a good place to ask this…..I can post a new topic if that’s needed/preferred.

    My company has a lot of product names that are trademarked and they, of course, would like to us the “TM” symbol on the first instance of every page for every name…and superscripted. You can imagine how tedious it is when there’s 10+ different products mentioned on a single page like in our catalog.

    Is there a simple way to automate superscript of the TM or the Registered Trademark symbols inside the paragraph style? I’m new to GREP and I thought I had set it up right but it doesn’t appear to be working.

    I might be missing something so here is what I did:

    – Inside the Paragraph Style I’m using, I went to GREP and added a new GREP style.
    – In the Apply Style: I went to “New Style”, “Basic Character Formats” and selected “Superscript” under “Position” and clicked OK
    – for “To text:” I selected the Trademark Symbol from the menu.

    When I start typing using the applied Paragraph Style and drop in the TM under Glyphs, it doesn’t automatically superscript.

    Any suggestions? I really hope that there’s a way to automate this because it’s gets to be ridiculous on some of our longer documents.

    • May 13, 2015 at 1:41 pm #75341
      David Blatner

      Keymaster

      You just want to make the TM symbol superscripted? That should be very possible. See this article for a bit of help
      https://creativepro.com/5-cool-things-you-can-do-with-grep-styles.php

  • May 14, 2015 at 4:05 am #75346
    Masood Ahmad

    Participant

    @Mathilde, How about creating two GREP styles i.e. one for SuperScript Digit(s) (in between the para) and the other for the Normal Digit(s) at the beginning of the para. Like this:

    GREP Styles:
    Apply Style: Super-Digit
    To Text: \d+

    Apply Style: Normal-Digit
    To Text: ^\d+

    Note: Keep the order as shown.

    Hope that helps :)

  • May 14, 2015 at 4:29 am #75347
    Masood Ahmad

    Participant

    @Christina, Since TradeMark, Registered symbols are already superscript, so there is no need to superscript them again. But doing this will make them Superior/Superscript i.e. very tiny.

    I hope you are inserting the TradeMark, Registered symbols either by Right click or from the Type Menu > Insert Special Character > Symbols > [select the symbol you want to insert]

    It is also possible that you are inserting TM characters (T and M) and then making them superscript, in that case GREP will not recognise them. So you have to tweek your GREP code to read the T and M characters.

    In order to achieve what you want, the code is given below:

    GREP Styles:
    Apply Style: SuperScript character
    To Text: (~d|~r|~2)
    (TradeMark, Registered, Copyright symbols) any of them.

    Hope that helps. If it still doesn’t work, then I would request you to provide me the unicode value for the TradeMark character that you are using.

  • May 14, 2015 at 5:55 am #75355
    Christina Rowland

    Member

    Unfortunately with the font that we use for our branding the Trademark and Registered Trademark symbols aren’t already superscript. I’ve made a screenshot and uploaded it here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7bg9woqbgfs7n7/Superscript%20GREP.PNG?dl=0) for you to see what’s happening.

    I set up the GREP style in the Paragraph Style that is applied to the text according to the article the David posted, I posted in here when that didn’t work. Then I tried your code Masood, still no change.

    Could it be that it’s just because we’re using a licensed font family (Frutiger) for our branding that the GREP in this case won’t work?

  • May 14, 2015 at 6:07 am #75357
    Masood Ahmad

    Participant

    No, Frutiger font do honour the Superscript/Subscript feature in InDesign. Are the Superscript character style okay, I mean does it have the ‘Superscript’ option selected under the drop-down list for the ‘Position’ under the ‘Basic Character Formats’.

    The code should work as I tried it my end and it is working fine.

    Secondly, there is no need to create two GREP Styles, instead both the symbols can be clubbed together:
    GREP Styles:
    Apply Style: SuperScript
    To Text: (~d|~r)

    Try with some new text in a new file (if still not working) and let us know.

  • May 14, 2015 at 6:37 am #75360
    Christina Rowland

    Member

    @masoodahmad I did everything as recommended in a new document and still not working :(. CS6 quirk?

  • May 14, 2015 at 6:57 am #75363
    Masood Ahmad

    Participant

    @Christina, really sorry. Is it possible for you to upload a copy of your InDesign file to your dropbox to analyze.

  • May 14, 2015 at 7:10 am #75364
    Masood Ahmad

    Participant

    or you can send it to me directly at masoodahmad@inbox.com

  • May 14, 2015 at 8:46 am #75369
    Christina Rowland

    Member

    @masoodahmad I put the file here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yratuxxdik1pvka/GREP%20Superscript.zip?dl=0

    Thank you for your help!

  • May 14, 2015 at 9:04 am #75370
    Masood Ahmad

    Participant

    @Christina, my guess was right. There was a problem with the Character Style. The SuperScript character style was having the properties like Font, font size, leading but not the SuperScript value.
    https://www.hightail.com/download/bXBieW42Zy9uSlJqQThUQw

    I have corrected the Character style and renamed it as “SuperScript_Revised”. You can delete and replace the existing Superscript character style with this new one and can rename it accordingly.

    The updated InDesign file is at the location given below:

    https://www.hightail.com/download/bXBieW42Zy9TRTVFQmRVag

  • May 14, 2015 at 9:18 am #75371
    Christina Rowland

    Member

    Well now I feel silly! Thanks for your help!

  • May 14, 2015 at 9:23 am #75372
    Masood Ahmad

    Participant

    Don’t be Christina. We all make mistakes. This is how we learn. I am used to with such kind of issues. I love troubleshooting. I’m happy that now you have the solution. Take care.

    
    @Mathilde, please advise whether the codes are working fine for you or not.

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