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• • September 26, 2013 at 10:32 am #65529
    Alberto Gutierrez

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    Hi there. I’ve been searching thru the multiple posts cotaining the “change case affair” in InDesign, but none of the solutions proposed on those posts seem to work in this scenario. I’m trying to generate an epub with these ingredients:

    – An InDesign CS6 book made up of multiple chapter files, all of the chapter titles and subtitles are in all caps (real caps)
    – The book has a specific index file which serves as styles sync source and contains the generated TOC.
    – Since the TOC “collects” the chapter styles used through the book, every item in the TOC is in all caps.
    – I would like to generate de TOC in sentence case, maintaining the all caps in the corresponding chapter titles.

    Is this possible for a mere mortal InDesign user?

    Thanks in advance.

  • October 13, 2013 at 12:20 pm #65746
    Dwayne Harris

    Member

    I searched for “change case affair” and it only pointed to here.

    I don’t do many ePubs, but mainly work in InDesign.

    Normally, when I do books with chapter titles that are all caps, I have them keyed as upper and lower case and use the palette in the paragraph style sheet to make them all caps.

    It works that way for runningheads (i.e., they are upper and lower case), but the titles on the chapter opening page is caps.

    Not sure if that works the same way for the TOC.

    If this was a repeat of the other solutions you found, apologizes. But I searched and “change case affair” only points to this thread.

  • October 14, 2013 at 1:25 am #65753
    Alberto Gutierrez

    Participant

    Hi Dwayne, thanks for your reply. The problem is still there. I’ve done trials combining layer to have two different versions of the headers, one in sentence case and the other in all caps. The problem is that when making the TOC, InDesign insists in including both layers contents, even if one of them is locked and invisible.

    The “better than nothing” solution was to edit the TOC of the epub in a html editor and perform a GREP seach to change the caps to sentence case.

    Keep on working…

  • October 14, 2013 at 9:51 am #65774
    Anne-Marie Concepcion

    Member

    Alberto are you talking about an HTML TOC in the body of the epub, or the nav TOC (the .ncx file)?

    AM

  • October 15, 2013 at 8:37 am #65804
    Alberto Gutierrez

    Participant

    Hi Anne-Marie, both of them. Let me explain with a couple of screenshots.

    This my InDesign book document:

    https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/disain/Capturadepantalla2013-10-15alas172548_zps4bd5a030.png

    This is an example page of my book:

    https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/disain/Capturadepantalla2013-10-15alas170528_zps53f1bec2.png

    This is the TOC dialog from the INDEX document containing the three levels that I want: chapter title, header 1 and header 2:

    https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/disain/Capturadepantalla2013-10-15alas170749_zps2bda6afe.png

    This is the generated TOC:

    https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/disain/Capturadepantalla2013-10-15alas170907_zps0bc2db2e.png

    Since the TOC “collects as is” every paragraph with the specified style, I get a TOC in all caps and small caps. I’m looking for a way to change the TOC to sentence case when exporting to epub.

    Thanks.

  • October 16, 2013 at 10:39 am #65834
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    You really, really do NOT want to type words in all caps. Type them in normal Title Case (or sentence case) and then apply the All Caps style to them:
    https://creativepro.com/all-caps-isnt-really-uppercase.php

    Unfortunately, if the titles are already typed in upper case, it is hard to convert them to the proper case. There are some tricks, but no easy way:
    https://creativepro.com/convert-text-to-lowercase-with-grep-utility.php

  • October 16, 2013 at 3:12 pm #65846
    Dwayne Harris

    Member

    ^^^Yup, exactly. That’s what I was saying in my post.

    Our workflow is to have them keyed Upper and Lower Case and then apply the All Caps to the style sheet. You wouldn’t believe how many manuscript files we get in and the heads and chapter titles are in all CAPS! It’s aggravating. But we go through and make them Upper and lower case and use our style sheets to make them all caps.

    We do that for chapter titles, chapter numbers, various heads, etc. It’s really a life-saver when it comes to running heads that are upper and lower case (and the chapter title is all caps), and stuff like that.

    As an aside–you wouldn’t believe how many designers are out there who keep them typed all caps and ignore InDesigns all caps feature.

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