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    • #58989

      Hi, I'm new to this, and wonder if anyone can help. I'd like the text of my footnotes left justified, i.e. ignoring the marker. So far, my only solution for multiple-line footnotes has been to individually adjust the left and first-line indents in each note. I've done this by eye: +8pt and -8pt for single-digit footnote numbers, +9pt and -9pt for two-digit markers, holding on to the en space between the marker and text. Is there an automatic, or at least an easier, way to do this?

      Cheers,

      David

    • #59024

      Hi again. Do I take that as a 'No', a 'Don't know', or was my question unclear?

      In hope,

      David

    • #59026

      I (for one) was hoping someone else would come up with a brilliant solution ;)

      If I have to indent a footnote, I use a tab and regular left indent. Your one-or-more digits distance cannot be solved that way, though. Do you insert the en-space using the Footnote options? What if you add an Indent-to-Here right after that? These are the codes:

      ^>^i

    • #59061

      Hi, and thanks for the reassurance!

      I used Document Footnote Options to set the en space (^>), but I'm not even sure about that: it doesn't seem right that I can just delete that en space in the footnote, and even delete the footnote number, something I couldn't have done in FrameMaker. Surely once they're set, the marker and space shouldn't be considered part of the footnote text per se? On the other hand, that does allow me to change the markers to Old Style figures — which FrameMaker wouldn't let me do — but again I'm altering the font and making them superscripts in each note individually. I'm sure I'm missing a couple of tricks here. I guess I should post separate queries for all the problems I'm finding with footnotes …

      I also tried your ^>^i option, but nothing seemed to happen, so I think I must have misinterpreted the instruction. How does it know where 'here' is?!

      Thanks again,

      David

      PS If I find a solution I'll let you know.

    • #59063

      Jongware's solution works just fine for me, using CS5 on a Mac.

    • #59067

      I'm altering the font and making them superscripts in each note individually. I'm sure I'm missing a couple of tricks here. I guess I should post separate queries for all the problems I'm finding with footnotes …

      It's possible you're having these problems because you are attempting to change them one by one. So it might just be InDesign saying to itself “Well he seems to be in charge”.

      The tricks you are missing out on now are all available in the Document Footnote Options settings; for example, your oldstyle digits and superscript formatting can easily be done by creating a character style for these, and then setting this style to automatically apply to footnotes. However … if you already manually “messed up” your notes, it might simply not work anymore.

      I also tried your ^>^i option, but nothing seemed to happen, so I think I must have misinterpreted the instruction.

      That was supposed to go in the Document Footnote Options as well :)

      .. How does it know where 'here' is?!

      The code is called “Indent to Here” — a slightly better name would be “indent from here” — and 'here' would be the place where this code is inserted. In this case, if you have a note, en-space, and “Indent to Here”:

      15.<en><HERE>Text …

      the left indent of the following text is set to “<HERE>”.

    • #59076

      Well, I’m not sure where else you imagine I might have typed the code, but I did put it in the Document Footnote Options! I reckon that the order in which I did things meant that it was overridden by my own footnote paragraph settings.

      Anyhoo, I started afresh, and it worked – so thanks for that! But I now realize that because the footnote numbers vary in width, a simple en space is going to cause irregular indentation for successive footnotes on the same page, so I’d be better with a tab: ^t^i, I presume. So my follow-up query is: How and where do I set the tab distance?

      As for the superscripted OS figures, I was talking about the marker in the footnote itself. I’d already set that as my style for the text marker in the options, but I don’t see a similar option for the corresponding footnote numbers.

      David

    • #59079

      I’m not sure where else you imagine I might have typed the code …

      It wasn't entirely clear from your post … Besides, you already got a number of other things wrong, so I thought I'd better make verify! Well, valuable lesson learned — ID can take a lot of abuse but at some point things stop working.

      ^t^i, I presume. So my follow-up query is: How and where do I set the tab distance?

      Tab distance is easy (depending on whether you are using styles or not). When not using styles, call up the Tab ruler from within the footnote (it's in the Type menu) and start dragging tab stops. When using styles, call up the Tabs panel and do the same. You can also look up Paragraph Indents in the Help, then you won't need to specify the indent-to-here code.

      Setting up a unique style for just the footnote number in a footnote is kinda tricky. I thought I remembered it used the same character style, but you are correct: that only applies for the text reference, and there are no special provisions for the footnote itself. So let's make one!

      First create a new Character Style and name it “Note number”. Just enable your OSF here — no need to override font, size, or anything else (well, unless you want to — then it's OK). Then, in your Footnote paragraph style, add a GREP style. Set the text to match to this:

      ~F

      and the style to apply to “Note number”. Then … press OK and enjoy. That's all!

      (The Magic Trick is that the automatic footnote number is not a regular number, so the usual stuff of finding and matching digits is not necessary. Instead, the style is applied to just the Footnote Reference Marker, which is the official name of the “automatic footnote number” code that gets inserted in footnotes. You guessed right: that code is “~F”.)

    • #14331278

      Would you like to be able to have multiple footnotes on the same line to save space? (instead of every footnote starting on a new line?
      1. Click https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601021-adobe-indesign-feature-requests/suggestions/31164550-add-run-in-footnotes
      2. Click the word ????
      3. Enter your name and email address

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