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• • January 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm #54405
    monkeymagic

    Member

    Anyone else having difficulties adjusting to the command-f shortcut closing the find/change box instead of bringing it into focus as in CS3.

    I use this command all day long and closing the box is damn annoying, especially when it's just hiding behind the palletes on my second screen.

    

  • January 11, 2010 at 2:29 pm #54412
    Eelco

    Participant

    Isn't that just the same cmd+f? At least in CS4 it is.

  • January 11, 2010 at 8:40 pm #54414
    monkeymagic

    Member

    It's not the key that's the problem, it's the behaviour of the key.

    In CS3 using cmd-f opens the find/change dialogue box, pressing it again brings that same box into focus (if, for example, it was hiding behind other palletes.

    In CS4 using cmd-f opens the find/change dialogue box, pressing it again closes the box.

    Now, if I want to do a grep search instead of just hitting cmd-f and typing in my search string I need to hit cmd-f and look to see whether the find/change dialogue box has been opened or closed, and if closed I'd have to hit cmd-f again.

    Very annoying.

    Is no-one else feeling my pain?

  • January 11, 2010 at 8:59 pm #54415
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    I know what you're talking about, but I think this method makes more sense. Find/Change should be treated like a panel, basically, and all the panels are toggles: KBSC to show them, and same shortcut to close them again.

    Obviously, it's the kind of thing that would be cool to have as an option, but I think Adobe doesn't want to offer a bazillion different preferences.

  • January 11, 2010 at 9:23 pm #54416
    monkeymagic

    Member

    I hear what you're saying, David, but if find/change was a regular panel then it should be docable, and there should be shortcuts to 'text' 'grep' 'glyph' and 'object search'.

    To me, it belongs to a select group of panels (such as the tab panel) that behave in a different manner to the regular panels, and so should be treated diffferently.

    Maybe it's just me, but I never use my panels as toggles. I have a seperate screen for panels and what isn't on there I have KBSCs for. The whole idea is to keep my hands on the keyboard.

  • January 12, 2010 at 2:04 pm #54427
    Anonymous

    Inactive

    Isn't it just a matter of pressing CMD F twice?

  • January 12, 2010 at 9:13 pm #54431
    monkeymagic

    Member

    Unfortunately, just looking at the screen is not enough to tell whether the panel is open or not – it could be hiding behind other panels. If it is, then pressing cmd-f twice would be fine as it would hide then open the pallete. If the panel is not open it would open it then shut it = 0.

    Is it possible to have a script that just opens the find/change pallete, or if open, focusses the palette, á la CS3? Then I could relink cmd-f to this script.

  • January 14, 2010 at 6:16 am #54447
    Nadya Miloserdova

    Member

    I can share your pain. I used to suffer from Find/Change lack of KBSC, espesially to toggle between Text, GREP, Glyph and Object.

    What if you use Esc to close it in CS4?

  • January 14, 2010 at 8:32 am #54450
    monkeymagic

    Member

    Thanks Nadya,

    I guess that's the only option – close the pallete every time I use it.

    Seems a bit of a waste though. Wish there was a better way.

  • January 14, 2010 at 9:12 am #54451
    Anonymous

    Inactive

    You know there is a keyboard shortcut for loading the Find Change box with text and finding next – it's Shift F1

    Select some text and fress Shift F1 it's copied to the Find Change panel and finds the next instance, then Alt Ctrl F will find next – no need to open the panel at all.

    Load Find and Find Next instancet: Shift+F1
    Load Find with selected text: Ctrl+F1
    Load Replace with selected text: Ctrl+F2

    In the Edit>Keyboard Shortcuts it's located under

    Product Area:

    Text and Table

    Load Find….

    So you can add your own keyboard shortcut

  • January 14, 2010 at 10:04 am #54454
    monkeymagic

    Member

    Nice tip, Hank,

    Would be better if it focussed (or even opened) the find/change window though.

  • January 14, 2010 at 10:57 am #54456
    Anonymous

    Inactive

    Have you tried it – I haven't got CS4 on this computer so I couldn't test it.

  • January 14, 2010 at 8:52 pm #54474
    monkeymagic

    Member

    I tried it on my pc last night. It worked fine, but it didn't show the find/change dialogue box, it simply jumped to the next instance of the selection – a great tip, and one I'll add to my list. I didn't try the 'load text only' option – I was tired and forgot.

    Tried it on my mac today and it doesn't seem to want to work. I thought it might be an issue with system shortcuts so made a new KBSC but it still didn't work.

    Any other ideas?

  • January 16, 2010 at 5:39 am #54497
    Anne-Marie Concepcion

    Member

    Personally I don't see it as that big a deal … I just press Command-F enough times until I see the dang thing. ;-)

    “there should be shortcuts to 'text' 'grep' 'glyph' and 'object search'.”

    When Find/Change is in focus, Command-1, Command-2, Command-3 etc. will jump you around the panes.

    Also in addition to the “Load Selected as Find” blah blah commands that Hank brought up, there are a bunch of them for GREP searches too, in the same section of Keyboard Shortcuts.

    hope this helps a bit

    AM

  • January 16, 2010 at 9:48 am #54498
    Anonymous

    Inactive

    Absolutely, that's what I said earlier – “Isn't it just a matter of pressing CTRL (CMD) F” That's what I'd do too, until I saw the Find/Change dialog box.

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