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Footnotes in CS4 are leaving orphans when split

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    • December 13, 2009 at 11:33 pm #54224
      hancilt
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      Hello, does somebody has a trick how to get rid of orphans in footnotes? I have this situation – a footnote style allows for split footnotes, because I have extremely long footnotes that often run to the next page. However, sometimes only last word or couple of words splits to the next page, forming ugly orphan.

      The “keep” setting for the paragraph style I use for the footnotes seems not affect this behavior at all.

      Is there a way to fix this?

      Thanks for your thoughts Tomas

    • December 14, 2009 at 11:44 am #54226
      Martin Braun
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      The keep options for the footnote paragraph style works well for me (with settings for beginning and ending lines). Are you sure, you edit the right paragraph style, the one, which is declared in the footnote options for the footnote text?

      But I run in an scary “error”, when i tried to reproduce your problem: When i use the keep options to keep ALL lines in a paragraph for footnotes, not only the lines in a paragraph but all lines in the hole footnote are kept together. For me, this looks like a bug. Surprised

    • December 14, 2009 at 2:48 pm #54229
      hancilt
      Member

      Thank Martin for trying to recreate the problem. Just to check if I am not doing something completely wrong:

      I am using Keep line Together at start/end of Paragraph start set to 2 end 2 as well.

      This setting however, allows splitting of footnotes so that I get a SINGLE WORD on a new line overflow to the next page!

      When I up the limitts to 3 lines, it correctly keeps the footnote together.

      And similarly if I specify “all lines in paragraph” it works.

      I always thought that 2 lines together is the correct setting to get at least one full line and a fraction together.

      It does not work for my instalation. I am using CS4 version 6,04.example

    • December 15, 2009 at 12:50 am #54237
      Dwayne Harris
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      hancilt. I've had that problem, but it's usually because the footnote won't fit on the page. Do you have your preferences set to show you “keep violations”? To me, it looks like there is no way that footnote will fit on that page, and ID can't do anything about it. I have “keep violations” checked in my preferences so that stuff is highlighted for me.

      I deal with footnotes all the time and I really don't have any problems with how ID handles them. Sometimes they break wrong simply because they wont' fit on the page, and I either have to rebreak lines to lose a line or make lines to push eveything to the next page.

      And are you saying that if you change your “keep together” settings to 3 for footnotes that ID is pulling back that widow/orphan (depending on what you call it)? I don't see how you can pull that back automatically unless you have your minimum space above footnotes set to zero.

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